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    So Gordo, you really just want something to drive around in from the 5th Element? Or Mad Max?
    "Autoholism is an incurable addiction medicated daily with car porn." ~Zeppi

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattsAwesomeStuff View Post
    It used to be that you had to have a car to be taken seriously. So even people that couldn't afford them, maybe the bottom 25% of earners, still bought a car and just struggled to pay for it. Keep up with the Jones's.
    This is based on a social "need", which backs up what I'm saying is the main cause for the decline of cars. Keeping up with the Jones's is strictly a societal "need", regardless of economic impact. Today, cars are no longer part of the social construct. It's common and acceptable for someone to live and get around town using alternative means and not owning a car. Back in the 60's, cars were everything. They were art and fashion. They were modes to express yourself. They represented independence and adulthood. For teenagers, they were what got you laid. Economic forces can be the reason for many things, but a social "need" can easily wipe out common sense and economic realities. For example, look at cell phones and how many people will spend crazy money on one. Apple releases a new iPhone, it will be more expensive than the last model, and yet thousands of millennials will line up and wait hours to get it. Not because they actually needed a new phone but because they just "had" to have the newest and latest iPhone. Millennials will find a way to pay for something we think we need, even if we don't really need it or can truly afford it. Your own example Matt, it's not that you can't afford to keep and drive the SUV you fixed up. You have chosen to try and sell it, to finance a different project. You're frugal with your money to the point you hate the concept of gas. So, you want an electric GT. Being able to afford this has nothing to do wit it. 40 years ago, if someone found out you drove an electric vehicle it would result in humiliation. No man drives an electric vehicle, that's just wrong. You need to drive a gasoline powered vehicle that is loud and fast, because that's cool. Be a man, drive something with double or triple carbs under the hood and run a Cherry Bomb muffler. Cars were an extension of manliness, and still are but society cared about that image back then.

    Once an object no longer is linked to your identity in social circles, it's easier to look at the economic cost of that object and realize you could remove it. A whole lot of America's economy relies on social need instead of economic or living needs. Baby boomers were the first generation where as teenagers, they influenced the economy. That has become a significant part of our economy ever since. Teenagers don't really have to deal with the expenses of life and are more free to buy something they want, if they have a job. Cars just aren't a major spending category for teens anymore. It's gaming consoles, tablets, clothing, drugs, headsets that cost almost $200, phones that cost $1,000, etc. Their priorities have changed as a result of social life influences.
    Last edited by Autoholic; 06-15-2019 at 01:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scifi Guy View Post
    I'm not an autoholic. Not even close. I don't really care how fast I can go or how fast and sharply I can take a turn. I don't want to compete against other drivers in any way, shape, or form. Engines don't fascinate me one bit, I just want the darn things to run okay. I don't give 2 figs about other cars at car shows.

    My Opels and my Solstice are the only cars I have ever messed with and I only messed with the Solstice because of it's faint Opel connection. I never touch my daily drivers. Never pop the hood, never curious about what all the gizmos do, don't care if they're a greasy funky mess, I hardly ever clean them inside or out, I change the oil once a year and fix little things that break or wear out to the best of my ability and that's about it.

    My recent Opels, the Red Baron and the GTX, I never stop messing with. But only because of YOU guys. If it wasn't for this site, you guys, and car shows, I'd just have a fairly plain Opel that I hardly drove and almost never worked on. I DID do a bunch of body kit and engine stuff early on to my long time yellow GT, but once I got the basic look and performance where I wanted it, I didn't touch it for the next 10 years.

    My GTX is a platform for me to do mechanical and artsy craftsy stuff to. Just for the fun and challenge of doing them. The fact that I'm doing those projects to a car is just a coincidence. I could be doing all that stuff to a wash machine for all I care. I would have the coolest, most tricked out, Maytag washer you ever saw.

    dont you dare blame your hot mess on us...
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    I don't think it is all about economics because it wasn't about that for me.

    My dad owned a very small one man auto repair shop. As a kid I spent a LOT of time there there helping and learning.

    I was very curious about how things work and tore apart all kinds of things to look. We didn't have much money, I worked a paper route and sometimes had to contribute my profits to put food on the table. I always wanted a stereo in the bedroom but couldn't afford one. One Christmas I received a clock radio. Soon my parents were both horrified and proud when I tore it apart, disconnected the tiny internal speaker, built two external speakers out of shoe boxes and larger Radio Shack speakers, and built my own system (mono of course).

    There was a Citroen dealer in town that I passed each morning when delivering papers. One day I rode by and they had a Maserati Bora and Maserati Merak in the showroom. I stopped by every morning to look at those cars from every angle, drooling at the brawny curves. At that point I really became obsessed with cars. I put car and racing posters in the bedroom and took up 1/24 scale slot car racing. That was also an experience, building chassis out of brass and piano wire, building motors, winding custom armatures (epoxied and balanced of course), built a tire "lathe" to cut my own foam tires, etc.

    After getting my drivers license and finishing high school I got a fast food job and saved money for car of my own. Of course I couldn't afford a Bora or Merak, and the muscle cars were interesting but not really my thing. I liked European sports cars and, in the US, there was really only one choice for me. With my dad co-signing I bought a 5 year old Opel GT for $1900. It was a financial stretch at the time but no other car had the sexy curves like the GT at an affordable price. I loved that car and did everything I could for it on my meager budget.

    A few years later I had a better job, the GT was totaled, and could afford a cheap new car. I got a 78 VW Scirocco and lowered and turbocharged it. Eventually traded it in for an 86.

    Then, life got practical, and there were other things to spend money on, but I always dreamed of getting another GT.

    As a self taught computer programmer I had some good jobs but was hampered by lack of a degree, so I went back to school and got a BSCS. I paid for each class up front, and tested out of many classes that I already knew, so no big student loans to pay back. That degree led to better jobs and larger salaries but then came expenses of housing, marriage, and family and the need for practical, roomier and reliable daily drivers which I maintained and usually repaired myself.

    Still no GT for me but I never lost the desire.

    When retirement came around I had built enough financial security to have a nice house and tinker. So I bought the GT and off I go.

    No, it's not all about economics, it's about interests and drive. Today there are a lot more things that millennials can spend time and money on than cars and girls. And they do. Gaming for them is huge. Time spent online is time that takes away from other interests.

    They also seem less inclined to work for money, I know my stepson is. I'm not saying that's always a bad thing. Boomers spent all their time working and much less time enjoying life. Recently there was a report that some marketing companies were advising clients to stop spending money on advertising to the millenial demographic because they have lower net worth than any other. But maybe they are enjoying their lives more than we did.

    I salute the Millenials that are enjoying classic cars. In the face of all the other distractions they have found the joy of cars and are following their dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwschumm View Post
    They also seem less inclined to work for money, I know my stepson is. I'm not saying that's always a bad thing. Boomers spent all their time working and much less time enjoying life. Recently there was a report that some marketing companies were advising clients to stop spending money on advertising to the millenial demographic because they have lower net worth than any other. But maybe they are enjoying their lives more than we did.
    That is definitely true. Yes, the millennial generation is typically earning less than other generations at our age and educational level. But it's also more complex than that.

    "The largest generation today doesn’t link happiness with pursuing money. For 88% of millennials, success in life is more about happiness than material prosperity — it’s love and family that matter. A quarter of millennials don’t care about money."

    Millennials Link Money With Happiness, But Not How You Expect

    "From the start of their working years, millennials have placed a high value on job satisfaction and enriching experiences. millennial have come to the point of turning down offers or promotions that might get in the way of these experiences. Some 94% of millennials say experiences are an important part of a fulfilling life, according to the survey."

    This is what millennials can teach everyone else about happiness

    Look at what the millennial generation sees as important and values. Equal rights, the condition of the planet, education, and debt. We're more concerned about social, economic and environmental issues than previous generations. If it wasn't for the DNC getting in bed with Hillary Clinton, the millennial generation almost single-handedly put Bernie Sanders in the Oval Office. Now, please don't take this as a launching point for a political discussion. I'm just pointing out that a generation often votes more towards a specific person they find to represent what that generation values. Bernie Sanders pretty much represented every major stance of the millennial generation.

    I'd say what millennials value is the driving force behind why cars aren't that important to us. And when we do buy a vehicle, what is the trend? SUVs. An SUV offers a lot of practical uses. You can go camping and explore the outdoors, which is pretty big to us. A SUV works great for families. You can tow stuff and use it like a truck. It's a very versatile vehicle.

    As Millennials Get Older, Many Are Buying SUVs To Drive To Their Suburban Homes

    It's just taken millennials longer to get to the suburbs and have a family. That is largely due to economic factors, because owning a house is a massive undertaking. With vehicles however, it's a lot easier to afford one. Do you need one becomes the question. Where I live, that answer is yes. Albuquerque is a very spread out city and trying to get around as an adult without a vehicle can get rather difficult.

    To any moderator that reads this, it would be nice to separate the true topic of this thread with the derailed portion. Could someone please move posts related to "The Decline of Automobile Ownership" over to that thread?
    Last edited by Autoholic; 06-15-2019 at 02:30 PM.
    "Autoholism is an incurable addiction medicated daily with car porn." ~Zeppi

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