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    Put a 1.1 in a 94;77 or 79 chassis make no sense.You must swap the rear axle too.
    Or you need a minute to go 66 miles with the 3.44 rear end.
    Best you install the 1.1 in front of a Kadett Autotrans with 3.18 rear end and a GM A/C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norbertone.gt371 View Post
    Best you install the 1.1 in front of a Kadett Autotrans with 3.18 rear end and a GM A/C.<img src="https://www.opelgt.com/forums/images/smilies/lmao.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Lmao" class="inlineimg" />
    BWAHAhahahaha!!

    Funny!

    I wouldn't need to put new floor pans in. I'd want them open so I could help it along with a 'Flintstone' push.
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    The Flintstone style is like riding a bicycle, there is no limit for the achievable top speed, the more you thread, the faster you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norbertone.gt371 View Post
    Put a 1.1 in a 94;77 or 79 chassis make no sense.You must swap the rear axle too.
    Or you need a minute to go 66 miles with the 3.44 rear end.
    Best you install the 1.1 in front of a Kadett Autotrans with 3.18 rear end and a GM A/C.
    Chevrolet did something similar when they put 3,36:1 gears in the US Chevette. I reckon it was available with both an automatic and AC.
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    I wonder... is there even an 1100 class in vintage? I've got another block, crank, heads etc back in GA to have fun with &#x1f923;&#x1f644;&#x1f914;
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    I could use that ratted '70 tub I have and make a clone just for events... hell of a lot cheaper than trying to run competitively in a 911 &#x1f611;
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    Darin, I will need a W1062 speedo. With a blue speedo drive gear (20 teeth), stock 3.44 final gear, and the tire size I'm wanting (205/60R13), the combo gives +1% error. The calculated correct speedo number would be a W1070. I'm open to a trade, but this is a pretty rare speedo. I can source a W1062 easily enough. You'd have to let me know what you have in the spare parts bin. I'm interested in swapping out the 3.44 for a 3.18, which would reduce RPMs by 230 at a 75 MPH cruising speed. If I was to go that route, then I'd want a W1020 speedo and a yellow speedo drive gear (19 teeth) for a +2% error. The 3.18 was the gear ratio for the 1.1L GT's.

    As for this yellow GT, if I was jonesing (look up the origin for that slang LOL) for a 1.1L GT I'd buy this yellow one. It's a Euro-spec car that could be returned to factory correct condition pretty easily and all the critical parts are there and in good condition by the looks of it. A true 1.1L GT is going to be worth decent money even in bad shape, there just aren't that many left. Same goes for the GT/J's but I think more of those were made for the European market than the 1100 GT. You could continue working on the 1100 GT replica just for fun and see what you could extract from the engine. So, the Euro GT would be for value and originality and the replica, converted US spec GT as a hopped up 1100 GT to show what the engine could do when worked over properly. Best of both worlds. And you'd be one of very few people to own 2 1.1L GT's. You could even turbocharge the replica 1100 GT to get silly. You don't see 1.1L GT's come up for sale that often.
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    GT/J from 1971 March to 1973 July are produced 10.760 units
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autoholic View Post
    ...when worked over properly.
    So like, seriously lighten crank, custom rods/pistons, FI... THEN turbo 25psi?? What the hell would I use to transmit that??? lol

    I'm worried of the paint factor on that yellow one. I hope they didn't strip it to metal for the repaint. I'm already researching the disaster that can be for future rust. I may rethink having the ones I have soda blasted, however, I hear that the blasting process actually gives a level of protection until you can clean, and prime it. Lots of rust on all three of those things so they'll all make good practice cars

    BTW, what the heck is a 'flat rear' GT??? I don't know if anyone checked out those old ads that I linked on the Ebay thread here. But check this out.

    1969 Opel Opel GT 1.1L Flat rear - Classic Opel 1969 for sale

    There's several pics of that car when you drill in. I'm wondering if anyone here may know the owner of that one. I believe the car is in Jackson and I had spoken to the guy that sold that car a few months back. He was surprised that I called and said that he had sold it a few years ago actually. I was afraid that was the one that got crushed last month after being sold to Pull-a-Part there for scrap. I ended up being able to snag the VIN plate off of that one and it was 931881198. Breaks my heart I couldn't save it.
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    Wow
    That is a nice find.A complete assemblied in Bochum Plant GT.Nice to see souch sourvivor,Verrrrrrrry rare!!!
    A flat rear panel have not the dent for the lisence plate as later model have.Only 68 and 69 have a flat panel.
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    Early '69 for flat panel. You can find GT's made in '69 that also have the license plate dent. It's actually kind of funny that 1.1L's, GT/J's, split bumpers and flat panels are desirable. Back when these cars were in production, the split bumper and flat panel were things to hold against a GT. A split bumper was cheaper and easier to produce, the flat panel went away as an design revision to make it look more proper and better designed. The 1100 GT and GT/J were the cheaper trim levels and had less features. Why would you buy a GT with an automatic? So, fewer people bought 1100 GT's, GT/J's and automatics and now this can make them more desirable due to rarity.

    That red 1100 GT... buy it. It needs a little love, but not much and certainly less than the yellow one on eBay. Again, 1.1L GT's are rare and you really don't see them for sale often. With the flat rear, you could put a split bumper on it and anyone who knows GT's wouldn't doubt it. I actually tried to see if it had one but I'm not sure. I didn't know only 342 US spec 1100 GT's were made... that makes the US spec ones more desirable than Euro spec.
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    Yes, it is. It sold for much less than the guy anticipated (much less than 10k).

    BTW, someone mentioned that Gordy here was working on a sliver one. I may have reached out to the wrong Gordy. There are two users named Gordy in the garages. Can someone tag him here please?
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    I had never known that about the flat panel. I knew about the early plant models, the split bumpers and the J... finally found out the real reason for the Manta lights on the last ones that rolled out.. supposedly to avoid have to do another run of the normal lights since they were down to just the last run of cars.

    I've noticed a few automatics going by lately. Guy in Kansas has a project one that appeared on ebay not to long ago. No one bought it. Pans looked solid, his min was only like 700.

    There's an auto with air here in Co in Canon City for like 3500.
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    And yup on the US prod runs.. that's why I'll never get over mine being sent to the crusher in 2012. It was insult to injury when I couldn't save that other one.

    I would much rather have a US one and was hoping the guy that originally sold that red one could touch base with the new owner. Never heard back from him though.
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    So, for motor runs.. only the GT was stamped 1.1SR ? I remember something different about the 1.1 engines used, and was there a stamping difference between Euro and US cars. This is from the one in my 'tribute'. &#x1f914;

    I seriously need to pull my books from the attic. I think I have that info.
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    The 11SR engine already existed in the Kadett B Rallye before it was used in the GT.
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    Building off of the previous reply, Opel designed the GT to use major components they were already using in other vehicles, especially from the Kadett-B Rallye. Opel had an 1100, 1100S and 1100SR OHV engines with the SR being the highest performing of the 3 at this displacement. The Kadett was a key vehicle in their fleet and for the 2nd generation (Kadett-B), Opel had the 1100, 1100S, 1100SR, 1200S, 1700S (CIH) and 19S (1900S CIH) for engine options found in various trim levels / body styles. A manual transmission was standard and most came with an automatic transmission option, with 3.44, 3.67, 3.89, 4.11, and 4.38 final drives. My info doesn't list a 3.18 as a Kadett-B final gear ratio but I think that also happened. Interestingly, I have info that claims the GT could be had with a 4.22 gear ratio.

    The Kadett-B Rallye had a 19S CIH, 1100SR or 1200S for engine options. This is the Kiemencoupé body style. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1113226

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodåren View Post
    The 11SR engine already existed in the Kadett B Rallye before it was used in the GT.
    And the Kadett have the nice 1100 SR badge on the rear
    I take it for the present box from a 1100 GT model I build in 2016.
    Btw. The real GT from Dieter have 87 hp with one SSD
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    The 1.1 GT was not stripped down compared to a 1.9 car. Only the GT/J model was, and they were not sold in the States.

    I have a 1.1 GT flat rear panel and originally a split bumper car in my shop. You can tell a split bumper by the holder in front having two holes, and the length of the seam is increased. It was easy to put a regular bumper on the split bumper car, and that would be things to check. Norbert can tell you off a VIN number if it possibly fell into the time a split bumper was used or not. Autoholic, the factory didn't do things because it was cheaper at times necessarily, but design changes and possibly DOT rules. If they were trying to make things cheaper, you think that on a Kadett model they would not have 4 different license plate light assemblies that all look the same. Sometimes it was supplier issues. The only things I've seen changed that I felt were due to cost was items like the cover for the flasher area on the GT going from plastic to metal...rear tail lights from a Manta on a 73. Opel was one to not care about building a whole new part a year later.

    Also there are some interior things that are different with 69 GTs, a couple being early ones had the heater valve built onto the box and inside the car. The resistor was part of the switch, not in the box. Some Kadett items may have been retained...like plugged or covered seat belt holes in the rear floor and the rocker panels, standoff on the pedal assembly for interior Kadett pedal cover. The one I have in the shop has plastic covers from a Kadett wagon placed in the tire tray for shock tower access. Which was very limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opelspyder View Post
    The 1.1 GT was not stripped down compared to a 1.9 car. Only the GT/J model was, and they were not sold in the States.
    European 1.1 GT's had the basic black interiors, interior code 451. US spec 1.1 GT's used the same 751 luxury black interior found in the majority of 1.9 GT's. This info comes from Projekt 1484. I should have stated the differences earlier in my prior post when I talked about these details being funny with demand.
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