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    Where on the finned GT can you see Dagmars ? All I can see are a pair of Cad taillights in the fins. Afaik, Dagmars are booblike bumper guards on mid fifties and up Cadillacs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodåren View Post
    Where on the finned GT can you see Dagmars ? All I can see are a pair of Cad taillights in the fins. Afaik, Dagmars are booblike bumper guards on mid fifties and up Cadillacs.
    Yes. When I was a kid, those cone-shaped taillights were also know as Dagmars, but definitely the bumper guards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrossjr View Post
    Yes. When I was a kid, those cone-shaped taillights were also know as Dagmars, but definitely the bumper guards.

    Back in the late '50's and '60's, those '59 Caddy bullet tail lights were an often-pilfered item by adolescent boys, who thought they were cool collectors items for their bedrooms. They were also popular with the 'lead sled' California car customizers in the 60's.
    Kind of like the Mercedes hood ornaments were in later years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTeglman View Post
    Jarell,

    I'll welcome you should you ever decide to pay Denmark a visit, and since you agree with me there will be no fist fighting, but only beers and driving on twisty b-roads (maybe not in that order, though), and we can go on tracks where you do not only turn left

    Cheers
    Well HELL Anders, for "driving on twisty b-roads and BEER" I'll agree with you! I'm not cheap, but I can be bought!

    As far as tracks where you only turn left, I race my my 1964 Honda C110/C200 (a modified 100cc C200 engine in a modified C110 frame) at the El Mirage Dry Lake (in Calif). When all is OK you turn off track to the left but when you have a problem or emergency you turn right. I'm happy to say that I only turn left there! At the Bonneville Salt Flats, it depends on which track you are on which way you turn so I can turn either way (I guess I am a little ambidextrous).

    As a footnote, the P-51 Mustang had an Allison V-12 when originally built. It was a "good" but not "great" airplane. When Rolls Royce Merlin V-12 engine replaced the Allison, the plane became a world beater! I guess that proves that change can be an improvement! Happy Trails!

    Doug
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    Quote Originally Posted by soybean View Post
    Interesting times indeed. I wasn't old enough at the time to understand what was going on around me.
    In later life,I realized what had happened. Mom and Dad passed away in 89 and the Wall came down in 91. I wish they had been here to see it. Dad would have been happy. He would tell me a little about his "Visit" to the wall in later years. He went to see the wall with my "Uncle Frank" Lillyman."Uncle Frank" turned out to have something to do with an "Agency",what I do not know, and was never told. "Uncle Frank" and Dad were friends back when Dad came to Italy. That was sometime during WW2, Dad told me about Anzio, and Monte Casino. What Dad was doing, there? I was always told he was regular Army and have no reason to doubt it. I digress, but anyway they went to see the wall. Dad said they climbed into an Observation Tower, and looked both ways out into a scene of desolation. All the buildings were gone and a strip of land was there with a high Barbed Wire Fence and an Observation Tower on the other side. Dad said they got the binoculars out, and looked at them and they were looking at Him. Wow.
    Yeah, i have been places, seen things, never realizing that at times, I was seeing History being made.
    I later had the opportunity to visit another place and "See the world, how to make friends." The rest doesn't need to be said. I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. Anyhow, take care and we'll see you, Jarrell
    This is a further digression but ... What is really amazing to me is how little we know about our own families! My father passed in 1992 but my sister found a small box with his "service medals and some paperwork" just last year. Dad was Army/Air Force for just over 30 years, retiring in ~1965. She was doing a major update and remodel to Mom & Dad's last home (in Dallas) and they were in an old shed in the back yard! My brother is now mounting them and giving them to me as "custodian". Among the many items was a "Group Award" for Korea but, possibly more important, was some paperwork that said he was stationed in Hawaii, at Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941! No one ever mentioned either of these and I never thought to ask!

    We now return you to your regular programming (but if you still have the chance, ASK!). -- Doug

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    Jarrell's mention of his family owning a Kadett in Germany reminded me of the first time I was made aware of the Opel's. In 1968 my sister was married to a freshly minted 1st Lt. in the Army. Before being shipped off to Germany they bought a brand new Opel Kadett. When I saw it I was underwhelmed. They had it shipped to Germany, and drove it during the 2 or three years they were there. Then it was shipped back to Dallas where he drove it until it coughed up a piston.

    slracer's story brings to mind that lack of knowledge of my fathers time in the service. We understand he lied about his age and went into the Army in 1939. At times during the war in was stationed in Alabama near Gadsden where he met my mother. I know he at some time was also in Hawaii. He at some time was with the occupation forces in Japan. I think he was out for a short time but was back in and served in Korea also. From stories I now think he may have been in the Army Air Corp's but records from that era were mostly destroyed in a fire in K.C. MO. After my mom passed a few years back we found a stack of letters my father had sent to her over the years he was in the service. Very neat stuff, one letter in particular shows the difference between now and then. My father writes of his hitchhiking across country back to base after hitchhiking home to see his new daughter.
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    My Dad was a B-24 pilot. He got into the war late, only experienced flak once, and dropped a bunch of bombs, the big ones got dropped by others and the war was over. He didn't have too hard a war. German/Polish grandfather got carted off to the gas chamber for hiding and smuggling Jews out of Poland. My mom had dreadful stories about getting raped by Russians, hiding in a basement for 2 weeks eating nothing but raw potatoes they found there, working as a secretary for the SS in Berlin while a bombing raid was happening and they pushed her to the floor and piled on top of her to protect her, sneaking through the East/West border with 3 kids and the defecting Russian general she had to marry to stay fed.
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    More to the subject at hand, I mentioned the Opel Gt with caddy fins at the Friday Import Car Club lunch I attend now and then here. Did not have photos at the time but later e-mailed same to a few attendees. They found the concept interesting and asked how our group reacted to it. I told them that like most things in life, opinions vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slracer View Post
    This is a further digression but ... What is really amazing to me is how little we know about our own families! My father passed in 1992 but my sister found a small box with his "service medals and some paperwork" just last year. Dad was Army/Air Force for just over 30 years, retiring in ~1965. She was doing a major update and remodel to Mom & Dad's last home (in Dallas) and they were in an old shed in the back yard! My brother is now mounting them and giving them to me as "custodian". Among the many items was a "Group Award" for Korea but, possibly more important, was some paperwork that said he was stationed in Hawaii, at Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941! No one ever mentioned either of these and I never thought to ask!

    We now return you to your regular programming (but if you still have the chance, ASK!). -- Doug
    Doug, I have similar story. When my father passed away, brother and I collected his medals (mostly WW2) and had them arranged in a box covered with a glass as shown in the picture. I had it on the wall for several years and it is now with my brother in New Zealand. It is great decoration piece and it keeps memory of our brave father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slracer View Post
    Well HELL Anders, for "driving on twisty b-roads and BEER" I'll agree with you! I'm not cheap, but I can be bought!

    As far as tracks where you only turn left, I race my my 1964 Honda C110/C200 (a modified 100cc C200 engine in a modified C110 frame) at the El Mirage Dry Lake (in Calif). When all is OK you turn off track to the left but when you have a problem or emergency you turn right. I'm happy to say that I only turn left there! At the Bonneville Salt Flats, it depends on which track you are on which way you turn so I can turn either way (I guess I am a little ambidextrous).

    As a footnote, the P-51 Mustang had an Allison V-12 when originally built. It was a "good" but not "great" airplane. When Rolls Royce Merlin V-12 engine replaced the Allison, the plane became a world beater! I guess that proves that change can be an improvement! Happy Trails!

    Doug

    Hello Doug (aka Susan)

    Ya' welcome as long as you bye the beers. Actually one of my favorite beers are the Sierra Nevada Torpedo (extra IPA). Healthy 7.2%

    I agree 100% that changes can be an improvement, and I have the utmost respect and admiration for the types of eg. Rally Bob, GERENT Rennsporttechnik, etc. Guys who have the technical insight & knowledge to make their hard work actually resulting in being improvements, and not just crap...- and for what goes regarding airplanes you don't exactly appear to be a novice.

    Honestly I find the Opel GT to be just as beautiful (bear with my choice of word) as a Lancia Fulvia Coupe, well even a Ferrari Dino, but I have never seen the latter being subject to the same horrid body modifications as the GT have from time to time.. - and IMO the finned GT in this thread just breaks the scale in ridiculousness.

    I have no problem with subtle body mods with respect to the original design. I would even salute the full Conrero body-kit as long as you had the engine to back it up, but Ferrari side vents? No thanks

    Well nuff said, I won't call you Susan again, and should you find yourself in Denmark at some point don't hesitate to give me a shout .

    Cheers,

    Anders
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTeglman View Post
    Hello Doug (aka Susan)

    Y

    Honestly I find the Opel GT to be just as beautiful (bear with my choice of word) as a Lancia Fulvia Coupe, well even a Ferrari Dino, but I have never seen the latter being subject to the same horrid body modifications as the GT have from time to time.. - and IMO the finned GT in this thread just breaks the scale in ridiculousness.


    Anders
    Earlier in the thread you indicated that an Opel GT, Lancia Fulvia Coupe, & Alfa Guilia were similar prices in Denmark. Over here, there is a big difference in price. Opel GT's go for $10k-$18k and there are a few thousand around and you can find them on Craigslist, EBay, and Hemmings. Not too easy to find, but plenty out there. The Alfa is mildly plentiful but command big prices. Good Guilias from late 60's, early 70's start at $20k and go up from there to as high as $35k. You can find them fairly easily but none are modified (beyond upgrading 1.6 to 2.0) and are considered purist cars. Now the Lancia is a rare beast here. There are less than 200 in the USA. Everyone that has one tries to keep them as original as possible. We bought ours in Italy for less than our Opel GT and imported it ourselves. I could have doubled my money the day it arrived.

    But Opel GT's were a poor redheaded GM stepchild at the Buick dealers and many have been treated badly and modified in many ways. (and I agree with you about the finned GT). No one in the Lancia or Alfa community would do to their cars what people do to the Opel GT here. (its their car and can do what they want, even if I hate it)
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    My Fathers Medals.

    These are my Fathers Medals and Mothers Graduation pin (Blue Cross), from John Hopkins. Mom went to England. My Godmother, Jane H Rupert, My Mothers roommate, at John Hopkins went to the Philippines. They enlisted soon as they Graduated Hopkins. WW2 Jarrell
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrinkMan View Post
    Earlier in the thread you indicated that an Opel GT, Lancia Fulvia Coupe, & Alfa Guilia were similar prices in Denmark. Over here, there is a big difference in price. Opel GT's go for $10k-$18k and there are a few thousand around and you can find them on Craigslist, EBay, and Hemmings. Not too easy to find, but plenty out there. The Alfa is mildly plentiful but command big prices. Good Guilias from late 60's, early 70's start at $20k and go up from there to as high as $35k. You can find them fairly easily but none are modified (beyond upgrading 1.6 to 2.0) and are considered purist cars. Now the Lancia is a rare beast here. There are less than 200 in the USA. Everyone that has one tries to keep them as original as possible. We bought ours in Italy for less than our Opel GT and imported it ourselves. I could have doubled my money the day it arrived.

    But Opel GT's were a poor redheaded GM stepchild at the Buick dealers and many have been treated badly and modified in many ways. (and I agree with you about the finned GT). No one in the Lancia or Alfa community would do to their cars what people do to the Opel GT here. (its their car and can do what they want, even if I hate it)
    Hello Dan,

    In Denmark (and generally in Europe) a running condition GT can be purchased for around $10K. Good / excellent ones goes between $20K - $40K, The Lancia Fulvia Coupe, and Alfa Romeo Gulie "Berlina" is nearly the same. Alfa Romeo Gulia "GT Veloce" is out of the scale compared to the Opel GT. You can get a 1974 Jaguar XJ6 in good condition for the same price a a Opel GT. Triumph TR6, Spit Fires, MG A - B - GT, etc., are also in the somewhat same price scale, some cheaper some more expensive.

    Porsche 914 & 924 you can easily find for less than a Opel GT.

    Sure, people can do to their car whatever they want. I respect that and if they want to stretch it and call it a modification, fine by me! Just don't call it an improvement because it is not

    Cheers
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    To bring the thread back to Opels, here are my "medals". Yes, my GT is heavily modified. No fins though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.J. Romano View Post
    To bring the thread back to Opels, here are my "medals". Yes, my GT is heavily modified. No fins though.
    Hello P.J

    Congrats with all your GT awards.

    Yes your GT is heavily modified, but your Steinmetz flares / body-kit are in a way historical correct, and I feel confident that that is done for a reason . I sincerely doubt you'll try to go gull wing doors and massive-jet-fighter-rear spoiler. My ranting is mainly reg. body mods.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.J. Romano View Post
    To bring the thread back to Opels, here are my "medals". Yes, my GT is heavily modified. No fins though.
    P. J. An excellent way to go back to Opels. I have a few, but mine are just for participating. Lol, Yeah I was there, but I don't need a "medal". I got what I wanted when I made it to "The Nationals". I got to see my old friends, to make new ones, to see all the Opels that came, to put names from this computer and board, to faces. I got what I wanted, even though the disasters that befell me when I got ready to leave and did. I got to see Friendship, there and here. I am very happy., Thank you, all. Jarrell
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    One last time

    OK Anders, the attached pic shows the rear body mod that is in progress (well progress has been "SLOW" lately but that is another story)! The car had been hit by something (there was a sharp tapered hole through the area BEHIND the license plate and caved in also. As I have always thought the 2 piece bumper and license placement "chopped up" that view I decided to make a full width bumper (front bumper cut into pieces and reassembled) and to move the license to a location below the new bumper. That allows a visually wider rear end and simplifies the styling (to me). The 2 "holes" under the bumper will actually be the backup lights made to look like exhaust pipe openings. As Chip Foose always says, "I want it to look like the factory did it that way." The strange looking piece on the roof is the beginning of a composite (hard) headliner, to bring that aspect of the GT up to date. Very little rust in this CA car, but one of the PO's must have had a drinking problem as there was a lot more body work than I expected (but then, I gave the owner my 1989 Honda Pacific Coast motorcycle (not running) and he gave me the GT AND $400)! The interior is also getting some updates and (if Gordon ever gets the 4 speed version of the TH180 automatic installed) the drive train will be updated also. I'm now 74 years old so I don't drive hard nor do I need to prove I can drive a standard transmission. If there was a 5 speed auto that I thought would fit, I would certainly consider it but have no need for all the fully electronic gizmos that make new things so hard to swap into a car like a GT.

    I have also attached a photo of my highly modified 1952 MGTD (with prewar Drop Head Coupe coachwork).

    BTW - WHEN I come visit (per your earlier post) what kind of beer do you drink? I think I have to take a case of Kilt Lifter (locally made Scottish Malted Ale) east the first time I make that trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slracer View Post
    OK Anders, the attached pic shows the rear body mod that is in progress (well progress has been "SLOW" lately but that is another story)! The car had been hit by something (there was a sharp tapered hole through the area BEHIND the license plate and caved in also. As I have always thought the 2 piece bumper and license placement "chopped up" that view I decided to make a full width bumper (front bumper cut into pieces and reassembled) and to move the license to a location below the new bumper. That allows a visually wider rear end and simplifies the styling (to me). The 2 "holes" under the bumper will actually be the backup lights made to look like exhaust pipe openings. As Chip Foose always says, "I want it to look like the factory did it that way." The strange looking piece on the roof is the beginning of a composite (hard) headliner, to bring that aspect of the GT up to date. Very little rust in this CA car, but one of the PO's must have had a drinking problem as there was a lot more body work than I expected (but then, I gave the owner my 1989 Honda Pacific Coast motorcycle (not running) and he gave me the GT AND $400)! The interior is also getting some updates and (if Gordon ever gets the 4 speed version of the TH180 automatic installed) the drive train will be updated also. I'm now 74 years old so I don't drive hard nor do I need to prove I can drive a standard transmission. If there was a 5 speed auto that I thought would fit, I would certainly consider it but have no need for all the fully electronic gizmos that make new things so hard to swap into a car like a GT.

    I have also attached a photo of my highly modified 1952 MGTD (with prewar Drop Head Coupe coachwork).

    BTW - WHEN I come visit (per your earlier post) what kind of beer do you drink? I think I have to take a case of Kilt Lifter (locally made Scottish Malted Ale) east the first time I make that trip.

    Doug
    Doug Old chap,

    Quoting Chip Foose you have just revealed yourself as a guy who like body-mods, when they are done with respect to the original factory design, and your 1962 MG TD "Drop Head Coupe" (I can't recall the TD was ever made as a Drop Head Coupe by Tickford, but TA & TB was), just verifies that you can't be all bad ..- unless you have converted your MG to electric (aka a Lady Shaver) , because then all the "nose breaking" and name calling is still on . Don't be to concerned I'll probably run out of air pretty fast, and want to drink beer instead.

    WHEN you come visit, please bring the Kilt Lifter beer. I don't think we import that brand. I really fancy the Sierra Nevada Torpedo (extra IPA). A danish specialty during Christmas time, is the Christmas lunch, where we besides the obvious eating drink X-mas brew (dark beer) & snaps (aquavit).

    Ooh, use the two holes under the bumper for a custom routed exhaust, and make a center down- light for the number plate..- that would be neat

    Cheers, my friend.

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    There will be 2 lights for the license, each about 25 mm long and 10 mm diameter - 1st photo. The 2nd photo shows the assembly in my darkened garage with the camera about 2 meters from the plate. Gordo didn't like the same lights on his car as they were too bright! My life could use some extra brightness as I seem to have little to spare!

    Doug

    PS - The Factory did not make any TD - DHC models, but I love those lines so much that I built one for myself. I even painted the car in my back yard in SoCalif! A friend of mine who restores cars for a living spent about an hour explaining why I couldn't do it! He told me the TA & TB models have doors much further aft than the TD (the door actually curves around the rear fender on those models) which makes the canvas area much smaller than it can be on a TD. The larger canvas then makes the top look "heavier" in the rear which "destroys" the appearance ....

    When he saw the finished version he told me that whatever I did (and he could not figure it out) works and that he loved the car. The French would say "tromper l'oeil" (or something like that). Gordo offered to trade me 2 GTs for it, but it is not for sale (at least, not cheaply)!

    3rd photo shows the burled REDWOOD dash (it was in CA, how could I use Walnut?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by slracer View Post
    The French would say "tromper l'oeil" (or something like that). Gordo offered to trade me 2 GTs for it, but it is not for sale (at least, not cheaply)!
    Doug,

    Is Gordo the same Gördö we all know as "The Scifi Guy"? (aka the Yuk Yuk Wackadoodle guy)? If so, don't ever trade your MG TD Drop Head Coupe for two GT's. Besides getting blinded by all the chrome..- to be honest I'm surprised there is any chrome left in the world, you'll spend the rest of your life searching for the culprit when some of all his custom made wiring goes side ways .

    When it comes to modifications I'll admit that no GT on this forum reflects the owners persona as much as Gördö's GT. That GT couldn't be neither owned or driven by anyone else than our beloved, multi thread posting-entertaining-crazy-funny-modification-maniac Scifi Guy.

    I'll admit that not all Gordo does to his GT is my taste, but he is a stand up guy, and I salute him for daring, and his courage to going all in . I also really loves the occasional roasting from Norbert.

    Cheers.

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