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    Quote Originally Posted by V8GT View Post
    Hello Dmcbrass,

    Thanks for posting the body nr pic. Interesting to see that it is a GT from the „Bochum- production-line“. This can identified by the prefix „20“.
    As unit number i read: „21 728“.

    As i mention in post #8, only 25% of total GT production were painted and assembled on this line and it seems that most of them were build in 69 (BB marked).
    In 1970 they slowed dowen the GT produktion on this line to a very low volume. Rule of thumb: 1970 „Bochum-GT“(„20“ marked) like yours a quite rar.

    Beside the body # there are many other indicators to identify a „Bochum-GT“. This require of course a GT in original condition.
    A quick look under the bonnet show:



    1. U shaped bar around the breake rod is black and not car colored.
    2. Wiring loom in engine-bay is gray and not black covered.
    3. Not on this pic, but in most cases you will see the Delco „square“ style coil and not the Bosch „round“ type.

    4. Many other small differences all over the car. To much to list.
    I meant to confirm that I indeed have a black u shaped bar and gray wiring loom. I don't have the original coil so I can't confirm which one it had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luciano5 View Post
    Mine is 4500 No letters
    any ideas?
    If this is the number stamped into the triangular gusset on the radiator support, it would mean that it was the 3500th body produced by Chasuuson. The lack of the letter "U" indicates that it was not destined for the USA. Bill

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    body number

    yes thats where it is
    Thank you! i ghues i can call it a early 69?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luciano5 View Post
    yes thats where it is
    Thank you! i ghues i can call it a early 69?
    The VIN is useful here. The cars were not always completed in the order of their body numbers. Some were held out for repairs, etc. I have body U1477 which was probably produced in 1968, but the car was not completed until March 1969. Here is a link to the German GT register. That might give you a better idea of when your car was built. Bill

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    This is what i have
    4500 no Letter
    See VIN
    and 8480 or 8490 on right corner

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    Quote Originally Posted by wklopf View Post
    I just checked the "B&L" number which Jose mentioned. My "Chausson" number is U1477, while my "B&L" number is 2807 as best I can make it out. According to information from Opel, my GT was built on March 12, 1969. My car has the wire loom clips which Jose showed in the photos. Bill
    I now think that that B&L number is 2086. I think that I was looking at it upside down before. Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by luciano5 View Post
    This is what i have
    4500 no Letter
    See VIN
    and 8480 or 8490 on right corner
    Comparing your VIN with those in the German GT register, it looks like your car was built somewhere in the April to May time frame in 1969. The first model year 1970 GT had a VIN of 94-1888818. Bill

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    It never ceases to amaze me when I check the latest posts, I always learn more and more about the Opel GT.
    Some how I feel like I just went to school and got out of history class and had fun (go figure).
    Thanks to all who contributed.
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    Thanks John for turning me on to this thread.

    What's the lowest BUN we've seen so far? I may have just dug U634 BB out of the weeds of Misery.. er.. Missouri. It's a 1.9L '69 flat panel. If so, it may be another 1 off with a higher VIN of 941788642. Pictures coming soon of BUN so I can get other opinions on what I'm seeing. May need to take some soda to it to clean it up better.
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    My '69 GT is U4024

    You can add your info to the Opel Registry here: https://classicopels.com/wcf/index.p...opel-registry/
    Last edited by Gary; 08-12-2019 at 11:30 AM.

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    Here's what I have on that '69 flat panel. (btw. I intend to add info on 5 GTs to the registry soon. Unfortunately 2 will be missing BUN info.)
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    Here's the another flat panel I was speaking of in the thread where OpelJohn directed me here. Looks to be U3205 BB. VIN is 9420 something I think. I'll edit this and add the full VIN here shortly.
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    Yours would be the lowest BUN number I know of in the states. It should have been an early finished assembly, but as we know some bodies were held back. The full VIN should give an approximant finish date. Have Fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8GT View Post
    First:
    „U“ stand for body dedicated for the US market. In oposite to the european GT, this bodys has to have a cutout in the quarter panel for the sidemrkers.

    Second:
    Belief it or not charles, but ALL GT-bodys inclusive 12 prototypes were made in France and „usually“ also painted end equipped at the French based factory B&L. The assembling of drivetrain and axels for ALL GT happend in the german factory in Bochum.
    But there is one big exeption. Doe to high costumer demand, exact 24 043 blank bodys came as „body in white“ to the german faktory in Bochum. This bodys were painted and completely assembeled in Bochum. This happend in early 69 antil the end of 1970.

    So you can say the were parallel two production lines. The body Nr for both lines are independetly count and in a different way marked.
    What it makes a little bit complicated ist he fact that the mark for the „second“ line (i.e. in Bochum painted and completely assembled cars) differs between 69 and 70.

    In 69 it is a „BB“ after/under the body Nr. and in 1970 it is a „20“ as a prefix before the body Nr.

    1969 GT from "Bochum" production line



    1970 GT from "B&L" production line


    The „normal“ in France painted and equipped GT have since 1970 corresponding a „10“ as a prefix.
    In 1969 there isn`t a mark on these bodys.

    In summary:
    Normal line (B&L): 69 - no mark, 70-73 - „10“ as prefix.
    Second line (Bochum): 69 – „BB“, 70 – „20“ as prefix.

    There are also some other little differences between the GT´s from both produktion lines, but this is another story...
    Here is our 69 1.1 GT BUN 3661 BB which has most of it's original paint and shows a lot of the "body in white" still exposed on R kick panel, inside the heater box cavity and on the underside in areas. Floor pans themselves have a good coat of original factory paint but as you get towards rear of car it is feathered a lot more with some white showing through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy View Post
    Here is our 69 1.1 GT BUN 3661 BB which has most of it's original paint and shows a lot of the "body in white" still exposed on R kick panel, inside the heater box cavity and on the underside in areas. Floor pans themselves have a good coat of original factory paint but as you get towards rear of car it is feathered a lot more with some white showing through.
    There was car for sale at the Deutsche Classic that showed BODY In white, but was a 73.. I thought it was overspray of primer on a repaint, but assured the car had a few touch ups but not a full repaint.. :/ Maybe they did that later as well ?
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    I was scrapping a 'white' GT and noticed blue paint in the rear. A closer look reveled it was two GT halves joined at the base of the rear deck and "A" pillar.

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