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Ok, this is really ticking me off... I keep placing bids on Weber 32/36's and keep getting "sniped" out of them at the last dying seconds.
Grrrr!!!!!
Sorry, needed to vent...
Grrrr!!!!!
Sorry, needed to vent...
eBay sniping
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Try them out.. I don't snipe often. But if I find I really have to have something and don't want to be sniped, I use them..
Try them out.. I don't snipe often. But if I find I really have to have something and don't want to be sniped, I use them..
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Thanks...
... it just "feels" like cheating to me...
Sigh... an IT guy that is hesitant to utilize technology to his own advantage. Isn't that paradox??
I guess I'm in the denial stage. I really thought I had that last one. Fudge...
... it just "feels" like cheating to me...
Sigh... an IT guy that is hesitant to utilize technology to his own advantage. Isn't that paradox??
I guess I'm in the denial stage. I really thought I had that last one. Fudge...
Another factor to consider
Ok it's like the lag factor on dial up or whatever you use. Say you place what could be a winning bid 5 minutes before close and it takes a minute or so to be processed and you see it again, meanwhile Joe Blow has a much faster internet connection and he saw your bid before you did. He bids again or maybe twice while the dial up is reloading. Ok one minute left so you try one more time and it takes a 45 seconds to be finished. Oh darn If I could have bid one more time is typical.
If your in a battle for what you need being prepared helps. Not that I had a microwave satelite up link to hunt for Opel parts, that would be cheating.
Ok it's like the lag factor on dial up or whatever you use. Say you place what could be a winning bid 5 minutes before close and it takes a minute or so to be processed and you see it again, meanwhile Joe Blow has a much faster internet connection and he saw your bid before you did. He bids again or maybe twice while the dial up is reloading. Ok one minute left so you try one more time and it takes a 45 seconds to be finished. Oh darn If I could have bid one more time is typical.
If your in a battle for what you need being prepared helps. Not that I had a microwave satelite up link to hunt for Opel parts, that would be cheating.
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Why doesn't Ebay use dynamic bidding?
This past February, it was great to watch her stallion auction come to a close. There was one bidder who was trying to snipe and it backfired on them...absolutely AWESOME to witness. We watched one particular auction last for half an hour past the scheduled ending time, and the sale price increased by $600!
Snipers often drive me away from Ebay...I agree it is sorta like cheating, and they could (and should) do something about it. However, to be honest, I've sniped before as well
Keep trying...
Todd K.
My wife runs an online auction every year for Irish Draught Stallions. The software she uses is by Beyond Solutions, and it has an interface very similar to Ebay. It uses "Dynamic Bidding", which basically keeps the auction alive as long as people are bidding. At the scheduled end of an auction, within the last two minutes (or whatever length of time you choose), the auction starts a two minute timer between bids so that sniping is eliminated. Everyone wins with this method...the seller gets a premium price, and the person willing to spend the most money wins the auction...NO MORE CHEATING!poffenroth said:
This past February, it was great to watch her stallion auction come to a close. There was one bidder who was trying to snipe and it backfired on them...absolutely AWESOME to witness. We watched one particular auction last for half an hour past the scheduled ending time, and the sale price increased by $600!
Snipers often drive me away from Ebay...I agree it is sorta like cheating, and they could (and should) do something about it. However, to be honest, I've sniped before as well
Keep trying...
Todd K.
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uhh. a neighbor just continued to bid on a set of rims 'cause they went over his personal limit and bid amount.
He said he studied the purchase history of the guy who out bid him, knew about the average value and pushed the price up artificially for a few hundered bucks just for fun.. ..
Ok.. fun for a Porsche dude....
He said he studied the purchase history of the guy who out bid him, knew about the average value and pushed the price up artificially for a few hundered bucks just for fun.. ..
Ok.. fun for a Porsche dude....
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I like that idea, where if there is a bid given it extends the limit by two minutes. I wonder if eBay would ever consider it. Then EVERYONE wins... Well, at least sellers and non-sniping buyers!
Then again, people who snipe at least keep me from outbidding what I had intended to pay... that whole "just a few more bucks" mentallity... I hate to admit it, but I am going to give eSnipe a try. Thanks for the link Gary.
Of course, if I were made of money I'd just buy a new one from OGTS. Let's see... $320 USD is about $1000000 Canadian, right??
I like that idea, where if there is a bid given it extends the limit by two minutes. I wonder if eBay would ever consider it. Then EVERYONE wins... Well, at least sellers and non-sniping buyers!
Then again, people who snipe at least keep me from outbidding what I had intended to pay... that whole "just a few more bucks" mentallity... I hate to admit it, but I am going to give eSnipe a try. Thanks for the link Gary.
Of course, if I were made of money I'd just buy a new one from OGTS. Let's see... $320 USD is about $1000000 Canadian, right??
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Umm.. that was Charles' link. I use Bay Prospector: http://www.bayprospector.com/prospector.htmlpoffenroth said:
I set reasonable max bids and then forget it.
I never liked the idea of sniping either but I really got fed up when I would bid what I wanted to pay only to watch some bozo bid 2 dollars at the time until he exceeded my bid. Now if I really want something I just snipe it. I either get it or I don't and it saves me money because if I had put in my max bid earlier someone would just keep chipping away at it until they had run the price up to where it was no longer a good deal.
Guntrader.com uses the type of bidding you describe above, if someone bids in the last 15 minutes of the auction, the auction is extended by 30 minutes. I think Ebay likes it just fine the way it is, they are making a ton and they own some of the sniping services.
Guntrader.com uses the type of bidding you describe above, if someone bids in the last 15 minutes of the auction, the auction is extended by 30 minutes. I think Ebay likes it just fine the way it is, they are making a ton and they own some of the sniping services.
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Solution to sniping is decide what your reasonable MAXIMUM bid is and place it once-
Bottom line, sniping or no sniping, the highest bidder wins. The sniper will not win if you have out bid him. I don't understand why people only want to bid the minimum increment a thousand times rather than just bid once with the max that you are willing to pay and leave it at that.
I got really upset that I lost an item to a sniper once, but then I realized that the highest bidder wins, period. It has nothing to do with whether the highest bid came three days before the end or three seconds. The easiest way to make sure you do not lose an auction is not to bid increment but to bid only once with you max acceptable bid IMHO.
-Nathan Acree
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Bottom line, sniping or no sniping, the highest bidder wins. The sniper will not win if you have out bid him. I don't understand why people only want to bid the minimum increment a thousand times rather than just bid once with the max that you are willing to pay and leave it at that.
I got really upset that I lost an item to a sniper once, but then I realized that the highest bidder wins, period. It has nothing to do with whether the highest bid came three days before the end or three seconds. The easiest way to make sure you do not lose an auction is not to bid increment but to bid only once with you max acceptable bid IMHO.
-Nathan Acree
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Actually Yahoo Auctions had that feature. But it never took off, not sure if it still exists.poffenroth said:
In the real world it seems there are at least 3 big competitors for everything.
Even in Computers you have PC, MAc and Lunix.
But online it seems to be one of everything, once your the big dog, everyone goes to you and ignores the little ones. So Yahoo Auctions wasnt worth messing with because all the Opel parts and Opel people were on Ebay.
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Yikes!
Anyway... I've put in a couple of sniper bids... We'll see what I get. Who know's, I'm probably bidding low anyway!
Anyone know what the Weber32/36 originally came in? I see a trip to the pick'n'pull in my near future.
Sorry!! Thanks Charles! Bah... who needs to sleep!?!?Gary said:
Well, that's IF you consider MAC competition...GoinManta said:
Anyway... I've put in a couple of sniper bids... We'll see what I get. Who know's, I'm probably bidding low anyway!
Anyone know what the Weber32/36 originally came in? I see a trip to the pick'n'pull in my near future.
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I've participated in auctions where this kind of static bidding has to be employed. A good example is government auctions, where you have to bid by paper and you have no idea what kind of bids others are placing on the items you're bidding on. BUT...those usually occur by necessity. Sniping however, can't occur in those auctions either, so they're still fair. Ebay could take this route as well and it would still be a very fair system. But they're "unique".Nathan Acree said:
Ever go to a REAL auction? Can you imagine putting your maximum bid up right at the start of the auction? You'd be an idiot to do such a thing, and chances are you'd lose every single item you bid on because someone would bid a penny higher. The bidding goes on until everyone except the winner falls away. Plus, MOST of the time, the maximum price you have in mind at the beginning changes by the end...that's the spirit of true auctions.
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it came on european fords from the 70's and early 80's so look for mercury capris and escorts but you may only find fomoco VV carbs on the escortsGoinManta said:
and if you find a geeman ford merkur (sierra) with a 1.6 or 2 litre pinto or the 2.6 v6
oh how good to live in a country where webers are door stops for most of there life
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