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If they are telling the truth, 150 lumens will light up an engine compartment almost like daylight, sans shadows.
 

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Discussion Starter · #22 · (Edited)
From a different thread:

http://www.opelgt.com/forums/1c-lighting-signal-systems/93681-third-brake-light.html#post1193745


Holy Cow! What a deal!:


Glow LED Light El Wire String Strip Rope Car Dance Party + 3V/12V/USB Controller | eBay


I just bought a 1 meter length of this stuff to experiment with putting strip lighting on the back of my car's spoiler to act as a 3rd brake light.

$2.28 free shipping from China!

That wouldn't even pay for the gas the guy will have to put in his moped to deliver it from his rice paddy to the post office!

It might be a piece of carp, but for $2.28 it's basically free.
 

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I played with my LED light strips today to try to get a sense of how many I would need in each area and how effective they would be.

First I took a 5' long strip of aluminum and taped 5 of them to it with 3" gaps between each, wired them up, and propped them up in various under-the-car locations:

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Under the side skirt area:

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The back of the car:

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And under the front of the car, strapped to the steering rack:

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Next, I wanted to see if they would be effective as under the hood lighting to actually help you see stuff if you were stuck on the side of the road at night or only as decorative bling. I took the light bars off the aluminum strip and put 3 on one 24" long piece of wood and 2 on an 18" piece of wood and tried them out in various locations:

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Under the sides of the hood opening:

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3 bars at the top of the hood:

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3 at the top and 2 more lower down:

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Both of them jammed under the cowling:

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The verdict? As under the car lighting for decorative purposes they're just right, not too bright and not too dim, and fairly easy to attach. As lighting under the hood to help you find the wire that popped off? Lame to useless. You'd need all 20 of them to barely see anything. Since they're orange, they'll only truly reflect well off of orange surfaces. My engine is yellow and you can't see shiite. Chrome only reflects the colors around it, so all you see is black chrome with orange lights reflecting. Maybe full spectrum white LED bars would work better. As bling? Meh. Not worth the trouble to hide and install and the added complexity of wiring and junk in the engine compartment wouldn't be worth the trouble either.

So, I'm going to install all 20 of them under the car. I may even try to install one in each wheel well at the top behind the tires to backlight them. Will they ever get turned on? Almost never. Under the car lighting is illegal to drive around with here in Jersey, so they can only be used when parked at evening Cruise-ins, Carlisle parking lot gatherings, and as a quick show off thing for my friends, family, and neighbors. Due to my work hours, I'm in bed before the sun goes down in the Summer, so I haven't done any Cruise-in meetings.
 

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Under the car lighting is illegal to drive around with here in Jersey, so they can only be used when parked at evening Cruise-ins, Carlisle parking lot gatherings, and as a quick show off thing for my friends, family, and neighbors.
Are you sure about that?

NJSA 39:3-50. Color of lights,
All lamps and reflectors, which display a light visible from directly in front of a vehicle as authorized by this subtitle, shall exhibit lights substantially white, yellow or amber in color.

(a) The color of light emitted or reflected by exterior lamps or reflectors on a vehicle shall be as follows, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b), (c) and (d) of this section:

White when the lamp is a headlamp, or spot lamp, or illuminates a license plate or a destination sign; or is located on the outside limit of a side car or other attachment on a motor cycle;

Substantially white or amber when the lamp is a side-cowl or fender lamp, running-board or other courtesy lamp, front parking lamp, back-up lamp, auxiliary driving lamp; or a turn signal on or facing the front;

Substantially red or amber when the lamp is a turn signal or a stop lamp on or facing the rear;

Red when any other lamp or any reflector is on the rear or on either side at or near the rear, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (f) of section 39:3-61 for a combination marker lamp;

Amber when any other lamp or reflector is on the front or on either side other than at or near the rear.

(b) Lamps and reflectors on projecting loads shall emit or reflect light with color as provided in section 10 of this act.

(c) No person shall drive or move any vehicle or equipment upon any street or highway equipped with any device or lamp thereon capable of or displaying a light of any other color than permitted by this section, except: an authorized emergency vehicle, an authorized school bus, or a vehicle authorized by a permit issued by the director.

(d) A permit authorizing a vehicle to be equipped with a lamp capable of or displaying a flashing light, except as provided in 39:3-54 or a light of a color other than permitted by this section, visible from directly in front of said vehicle, may be issued by the director when necessary, in his discretion, for the reasonable and safe movement of traffic. The permit shall specify the type and color of such lamp and the conditions under which a person may drive or move the vehicle with said lamp displaying a light. The permit shall be valid only when the specifications and conditions contained therein are complied with.

The director may cancel or revoke a permit issued under authority of this section whenever the conditions for its issuance no longer exist or on any other reasonable grounds.
White or amber appear to be legal.
 
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Well, gee, what do know, according to that statute and the dumb luck on my part by choosing amber, it appears that I can drive around with white or amber under the car lights here in Jersey! Hooray! Nice sleuthing!


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My recently installed hood window has rekindled my interest in this project, so my next attempt will involve using 2 of these car LED kits:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4Pcs-RGB-L...rentrq:382dc9791680ab674b747b99fff7e51a|iid:1

My plan is to use one kit to light the engine bay and the other kit to light up under the car. Both kits have arrived and I might start the project this weekend.

The entire kit is pre-wired and connectored. There are 4 flexible, encased in urethane, COB(Chips On a Board) LED strips with self adhesive peel and stick backings. The kit contains two 2 foot long LED strips and two 3 foot long strips. For under the car, I figure on installing the 3 foot strips on the sides between the wheels and attached to my side skirts and a 2 footer attached to the belly pan or front suspension, with the last 2 footer routed along the bottom of the rear axle(to keep it away from the exhaust heat). Each strip is attached to an 8 foot sturdy wire and all 4 strip wires are permanently molded into a single junction attached to a single wire that plugs into the infrared receiver/controller. A hand held remote turns the lights on and selects the various lighting modes and effects. No switches or anything need to be added to the car, you simply need to attach the system to a 12V source and make sure the infrared controller is located somewhere where the controller can see the remote. The system can make the lights flash and change in various ways to music, so you would need to mount the infrared controller and it's built in sound sensor inside the car, so that it can hear the music, if you want that function to work.

The biggest bugaboo is that all four 8' wires, junction, and strips are essentially one inseparable piece that then plugs into the controller. You'll have to plan and think out how you're going route and attach the wires and strips carefully.

And the great thing is: $20 + free shipping! Heck, I blow that much money just buying lunch every day.

I don't really want to stick the LED strips to the car and it's paint, so I'm currently thinking about adhering them to metal strips or clear tubing that I can wire tie or screw to the car.

I'm considering mounting the other kit entirely to the underside of the hood, the 3 footers tucked into the hood's side edges and the 2 footers front and rear or stuck to those 2 flat chromed bars that add strength to my hood. It all depends on whether the lights will be annoying if I have the hood up.

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I don't like the layout and I'm going to change it. The shortness of the wires for the 24" front and rear lights is screwing everything up. With the rear one attached to the pan hard bar(a VERY good location), the one in the front can't get mounted any farther forward than the engine support crossmember. That's about 48" away from the front bumper. WAY too far back.

So I'm going to mount both of the short 24" LED strips in a V pattern all the way up front and not light up the back at all. Coupled with under-the-hood lighting, that ought to look pretty acceptable. I'm not seeking to install a wackadoodle system, just a minimally acceptable light set up to show the car at night and be on a level playing field with the tuner dudes.

Really, though, the only reason I'm doing this is for those first 2 nights in the Carlisle hotel parking lot. After that they'll almost never get used.

Pic of my plan:


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I installed the V-pattern metal strips for the front lights today and I was going to call it a day when I figured I would spend a little time figuring out how to light up the engine compartment.

WOWOWIE!

It turned out REALLY great. WAY better than I had hoped for!

Here's a video. Eat your heart out with envy........



https://youtu.be/d2uA5TZTFmc
 

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I installed the V-pattern metal strips for the front lights today and I was going to call it a day when I figured I would spend a little time figuring out how to light up the engine compartment.

WOWOWIE!

It turned out REALLY great. WAY better than I had hoped for!

Here's a video. Eat your heart out with envy........

https://youtu.be/d2uA5TZTFmc
So, what are you going to do at daytime car shows? Add a 1000 W halogen spot light where the battery sits?

Dieter
 
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omg. i have tears of laughter and happiness going down my face. I had to show my entire family this video. Love the chrome, and the new lights. didnt know you had port holes?

you are truly special Gordon. and youre ours.
 

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Arrgghh! Dammit!

Today I decided to finalize the placement, attachment, and wiring of the under-the-car lighting. I spent 3 hours figuring out the best place to put the main junction box, so that it's antenna could get the signals from the remote, routing/securing the wiring, and attaching the LED strips. I get to the tightening the last wire tie on the last LED strip and I'm just minutes away from powering it up for a test, when I notice that the wiring coming out of that LED strip was cocked at an angle. Oh schitt, I hope that doesn't mean something bad. Powered it all up and 3 of the strips light up and that 4th one did not. Touch the wire at that strip and it completely came loose. I see little tiny sparks as the 4 microscopic wires start shorting out to each other. Oh schitt! I scurry out from under the car to disconnect the power. Upon examination, all 4 wires have broke off where they were soldered to the LED strip! Son of the beach! It's darn near impossible to re-solder hair-thin wires onto terminals that are 1/64" apart from each other. I don't have a precision soldering iron and it's been 10 years since I had the eyesight to do the job, but I'll take a crack at it. I'm not optimistic. If I can't do it I'll have to cut dozens of wire ties and throw the whole set away, then repeat the entire install process with my second LED kit. The whole kit is one piece, break any part of it and it's all junk.

I am so pissed off right now. :censored:

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That's often a problem with those LED strips. Probably a good idea to glop a bunch of RTV on that exposed wire bus before doing anything with them.
 
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