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Does anyone have a local tranny shop that rebuilds the Getrag 5-speed. I have a couple that I would like gone through.
 

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Precision Transmission up here in Wells, Maine, is a full service shop that still does quite a bit of transmission work, both automatic and manual. I cannot say that he is a Getrag specialist, but I suspect he would do as good a job as anyone. I have used his shop for my BMWs for the ten years that I have been up here. Ask for Dave Roy.
 

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You're going to have a REALLY hard time finding anyone with the parts to repair a Getrag anywhere in the world even. It's getting to be a risky bet to pay the enormous money for them and then at some point, either right away or down the road, get them repaired. They haven't made new parts for them in decades and the number of available key replacement gears and widgets worldwide would fit in a shoe box. Charles Goin has been leading the charge to get them and have them rebuilt. I think he has one guy in Europe and another out in California and that's it. I know of at least 10 Opelers whose Getrags broke and they can't get them fixed. Some have had to put their 4sps back in.
 

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Right now I’m buying parts for mine. I have an order with Edelschmiede for the front and rear bearings, the lay shaft bearings, the 3 seals, a gasket kit, a blue speedo drive kit, a short angle drive, reverse light switch, a new clutch fork, Sachs throughout bearing, and the slip yoke spring. I already have a full set of synchros for it. And I’m ordering from Splendid Parts a shifter assembly, clutch cable, and 5 spd speedo cable. I can source the various needle bearings through BMW suppliers and possibly the shifter forks too if needed. I have a BMW repair manual that covers the 240 and I have the Opel rebuild manual for the 240, which is in German. Oh and I have some of the special tools mentioned in both manuals to help with this job.

I plan to rebuild my 240 myself and it should be about as new as possible. I wouldn’t describe this as cheap though.
 

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You're going to have a REALLY hard time finding anyone with the parts to repair a Getrag anywhere in the world even. It's getting to be a risky bet to pay the enormous money for them and then at some point, either right away or down the road, get them repaired. They haven't made new parts for them in decades and the number of available key replacement gears and widgets worldwide would fit in a shoe box. Charles Goin has been leading the charge to get them and have them rebuilt. I think he has one guy in Europe and another out in California and that's it. I know of at least 10 Opelers whose Getrags broke and they can't get them fixed. Some have had to put their 4sps back in.
Wow! And to think I was considering getting one. Thanks for the info.
 

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Wow! And to think I was considering getting one. Thanks for the info.
As a counterpoint, many of us are huge fans of Getrag 240 5-speeds. There really isn't a "plug-n-play" (almost) alternative, and they are terrific transmissions. Are parts expensive and a bit scarce? Perhaps, but they are very robust transmissions, and there are a number of repair options. Which may never be needed...
 

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I'm not doing my usual poo-pooing of sticks, I'm merely stating what I've observed and heard from Charlie, the builder in California, and others over the past 2 years. Getting parts is getting to be difficult. Charlie would get 10 trannies in a crate, send them to California, and the builder can only get 4 or so working with a combination of new parts and cannibalized parts. I know of 3 guys in just the past week or two whose Getrags broke down. Our Getrags all used trannies in various states of wear and 100% rebuilds are darn near impossible. JerseyDave has been sitting on his 3-4 Getrags for at least 10 years now.

Dave, I suggest you contact Charlie, I can give you his number, and see what he can arrange for you. I'll bet that the only path will be to send all your trannies to the guy in California. Maybe he can fix them all, maybe a few, and you could sell one or more for BIG bucks to make your cost zero.
 

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So does anyone know just how different the BMW 240 Getrag is from the Opel? I know the housing/case is, but what about the internals? I am wondering if there might be a greater supply of those over here for cannibalizing.
Although, I would suspect the the rebuilders over here are already doing that for the BMW guys...
 

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I believe some of the gear ratios are different and some of the synchros are different. A lot of the parts should be interchangeable. They use the same bearings, seals, and gaskets. I think they might use the same shift forks but I’m not positive. BMW had early and late versions of the 240, with at least 2 different gear ratio sets and Opel only had one version. So, some parts will be the same. How much would require a tear down of both to compare.

If you’re good at hunting down parts, you can find a lot of the parts that are needed. The problem is they are expensive. My Getrag 240 cost me $900 and I’m going to spend around $3,000 in parts and shipping. So I wouldn’t say you can’t pursue a Getrag but be prepared to spend a decent amount.

It might even be possible to completely switch out the Opel 240 internals for BMW internals. I haven’t compared a full set of each to know but I can’t imagine Getrag making the casings and the internals completely different from each other in how the transmissions fit together. The two transmissions do look a lot alike, from the various assembly diagrams I have. But even if you can switch internals out, the BMW parts aren’t any cheaper.
 

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To give more comparison between the BMW and Opel Getrag 240s...

BMW Gear Ratios
The 318i's had 1st - 3.72, 2nd - 2.02, 3rd - 1.32, 4th - 1.0, 5th - 0.81, and reverse - 3.45. The 318iS had 1st - 3.72, 2nd - 2.02, 3rd - 1.61, 4th - 1.0, 5th - 0.80, and reverse - 3.71.
source: Drivetrain - E30 Zone Wiki

Opel Gear Ratios
1st - 3.717, 2nd - 2.019, 3rd - 1.316, 4th - 1.0, 5th - 0.804, and reverse - 3.445 are the exact values but this looks like the Opel gear ratios are the same as the 318i, and I'm thinking the 318i and 318iS actually have the same overdrive.

This just reinforces my belief that the internals would be interchangeable for the most part. BMW did have Getrag do some revisions to the 240, which from all the parts lists I've seen seems to mostly be the synchros and front bearing. I know some of the synchros are the same as Opel but at some point during the 318i's production, BMW had the synchros and front bearing improved. I haven't looked into it enough to identify when that change happened. The BMW Getrag 240 is in the same boat we are, a lot of the parts are no longer made. But you can find a lot of NOS parts still floating around in warehouses for BMW if you look hard enough.

I have a feeling that sometime soon, someone will have to buy a BMW Getrag 240 for the internals to try and rebuild their Opel Getrag 240. That's when we'll learn just how much is identical between them. You can find them on eBay for a few hundred bucks.
 

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Alot is different.. and only the E30 Getrag 240 doesn't use the same syncros.. there was one shop I used in California Alfa Italia, Onofrio is the guy to ask for.

That said hey were Gils go too.. BUT I had to source syncros some other bearings and other parts, some came from Gil. Thats when I found JefBoite in Belgium who builds mine now.

No only does he have the experience, he has a stash of older Opel Getrags, and between us we sourced a bunch of syncros. WE have enoguh for about 8 more transmissions before its going to get hit or miss if we can even rebuild them.
 
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To give more comparison between the BMW and Opel Getrag 240s...

BMW Gear Ratios
The 318i's had 1st - 3.72, 2nd - 2.02, 3rd - 1.32, 4th - 1.0, 5th - 0.81, and reverse - 3.45. The 318iS had 1st - 3.72, 2nd - 2.02, 3rd - 1.61, 4th - 1.0, 5th - 0.80, and reverse - 3.71.
source: Drivetrain - E30 Zone Wiki

Opel Gear Ratios
1st - 3.717, 2nd - 2.019, 3rd - 1.316, 4th - 1.0, 5th - 0.804, and reverse - 3.445 are the exact values but this looks like the Opel gear ratios are the same as the 318i, and I'm thinking the 318i and 318iS actually have the same overdrive.

This just reinforces my belief that the internals would be interchangeable for the most part. BMW did have Getrag do some revisions to the 240, which from all the parts lists I've seen seems to mostly be the synchros and front bearing. I know some of the synchros are the same as Opel but at some point during the 318i's production, BMW had the synchros and front bearing improved. I haven't looked into it enough to identify when that change happened. The BMW Getrag 240 is in the same boat we are, a lot of the parts are no longer made. But you can find a lot of NOS parts still floating around in warehouses for BMW if you look hard enough.

I have a feeling that sometime soon, someone will have to buy a BMW Getrag 240 for the internals to try and rebuild their Opel Getrag 240. That's when we'll learn just how much is identical between them. You can find them on eBay for a few hundred bucks.
Hi All- keep this in mind- the BMW 318iS is a similar but different car with a different transmission and engine... the iS does not use the getrag 240, and it is a 1.8l DOHC motor instead of the 1.8l SOHC motor that was last used (in the US) in 1984 and 1985... Ernie
 

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Hi All- keep this in mind- the BMW 318iS is a similar but different car with a different transmission and engine... the iS does not use the getrag 240, and it is a 1.8l DOHC motor instead of the 1.8l SOHC motor that was last used (in the US) in 1984 and 1985... Ernie
According to online BMW parts databases, the 1989 - 1991 318iS did use the Getrag 240. It was the E36 318iS from 1992 to 1996 that used the Getrag 225. Both versions used the M42 engine. I would not have included the info from the 318iS if I wasn't positive that the Getrag 240 showed up in that car. I'll trust parts databases that go by the month of production from BMW over pretty much anyone else. So unless you can prove the bellow website is wrong Ernie, the E30 318iS did use a Getrag 240.

 

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The OP asked about a transmission shop in the NE that could rebuild a Getrag 240. A competent shop could likely do it if you provided the parts so they didn’t have to spend time trying to figure this out. If you’re willing to chase down the parts and spend like $1k on gaskets, seals, bearings, and synchros then we can help you with part numbers and possible sources.
 

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It's a stick shift tranny, any tranny shop can rebuild those. It's getting the parts that is becoming increasingly difficult.
Not quite true. There's some special tools that help getting the shafts properly aligned for reassembly. Some have done it without the tools but a shop will spend a lot of time if they don't have the tools and unless you're willing to pay them by the hour rather than by the job, they probably won't want to do it. After calling several shops that specialized in manual trans none wanted anything to do with it. I found one in metro Atlanta and their response was "yeah, we should be able to do that" and I provided the parts. A couple months later I get it back and not feeling quite right. Sent it to CA to Gil's guy. Found a couple missing parts and a couple springs in the wrong places. Sure, go ahead and take it to any tranny shop.
 

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It's a stick shift tranny, any tranny shop can rebuild those. It's getting the parts that is becoming increasingly difficult.
The difficult part is making sure you buy the right synchros and a rebuild will need some. Pretty much everything else can be sourced with a little searching but it's easy to think you got the correct synchros and then find out they are different. There is a BMW synchro that is identical, but I'm not sure which one. I think Charles knows the right part number. I was fortunate enough to source a total of 7 Opel NOS synchros but it took a couple years.
 
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