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Ebay. "Firewall insulation" in Ebay Motors. 20,000 to choose from, all are basically the same. 10mm or 394 or so thick seems to be the better grade. They come in 2 foot wide rolls, pick the length you want. Also excellent for insulating and sound deadening the interior and floors. I suggest power washing your engine compartment with strong detergent and a scrub brush to get all that funky Opel oil off of everything. Remember: Preparation is often the most important part of the job. Here's a sample ad:

 

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Ebay. "Firewall insulation" in Ebay Motors. 20,000 to choose from, all are basically the same. 10mm or 394 or so thick seems to be the better grade. They come in 2 foot wide rolls, pick the length you want. Also excellent for insulating and sound deadening the interior and floors. I suggest power washing your engine compartment with strong detergent and a scrub brush to get all that funky Opel oil off of everything. Remember: Preparation is often the most important part of the job. Here's a sample ad:

Cool! I will have to buy some. My grandpa doesn’t have a pressure washer so we will just do it with a hose and scrub it. We are also hoping to paint the engine bay the cars outside color if we can get it to match.
 

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I just scored on a edelbrock fuel sump like yours for $150. and the edelbrock red pump for $40.

what are you running for fuel filters?

Each of those pumps come with their own filters. A small metal one goes just before the small red one and a lemon sized one goes in the output line of the main pump. I would guess that Edelbrock sells replacements, in case the pumps you bought don'y come with them.

VERY IMPORTANT FYI!: The big pump kit comes with this horrible "Russell" hose that just refuses to stretch and is virtually impossible to get on the fittings, even when heated as per the instructions. We aren't running massive dragster fuel pressures, so just buy some FI rated fuel line from the auto store.
 

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Today I got the engine out of my dang basement for install into my Banana car. It wouldn't be so bad if the 4 steps leading down to it weren't in such a bad location. Oh well, this ain't my first rodeo getting engines out of my basement. This time, however, the engine had the tranny attached to it. It may have actually helped the situation. I had bought a fancy new handtruck back in the Fall and it worked marvelously. I bought a new cargo strap and a 2nd big dolly for the job, too. But, then I ran across the same problem of not having enough wood of the right size and strength to put over the steps to make a 7 foot long ramp. Some guys were gutting and fixing up a house down the street and they let me have one of the 100 year old hardwood doors they were throwing out. It fit perfectly! I fastened a large towing strap to my SUV and pulled the engine out of the basement as I normally do. Mission accomplished!

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When are you going to install an Opel elevator in that stairwell? You’re not getting any younger.

Opel-vator? You should patent that idea.
 

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Dagnabbit! Two tranny things that I should have attended to while the tranny was in my basement on my workbench many months ago are biting me in the ass.

Opels use an approximately 3/4" threaded end speedo gear, but the standard American size is about 7/8". My electronic dash has a digital sender unit that screws onto the speedo gear. Just like with my other car I should have bought the larger size. I thought I already did this, but apparently I didn't. So I had to search Ebay for the larger threaded "bullet". They're a bit longer than oem Opel ones, so you have to also buy the longer blue 20-tooth gear. Luckily I found both in one purchase with new seals for only $13.50:

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I also should have cut the braided flexible tranny hose and installed the AN fittings. I sort of felt that the coil of hose I had looked a little short. I bought my tranny cooler and fittings as a kit and assumed that it came with plenty of hose. I have the tranny cooler mounted to the horn mount cross bar, which is about 18" away from the pulleys on the front of the engine. Guess how much hose I have extending past the engine pulleys? 18 inches. That's too short, the hoses have to bend upwards to the tranny cooler and you really should have even more extra hose length to make install easier. The kit came with 10 feet of hose, which is fine if I put the cooler right in front of the radiator, but it's NOT fine with the cooler mounted 14" or so farther in front of the radiator.:

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On my other car I have this much extra, plus quick disconnects, approximately 14 feet of hose:

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I've had to pull my GTX car's engine several times and it is VERY convenient to have plenty of extra hose to work with to attach to the tranny cooler. I have to wait for the speedo gear to come, so, since I have to wait until the end of the week for that, I might as well blow some more money and get the correct length of braided tranny hose I want. The 10 foot length they sent me was part of a kit, so it was included with the one shipping price for all the stuff and I was charged $35 for it. I just placed the order for 15 feet of hose at $55, plus $15 shipping and tax for a total of $75. Dagnabbit! @#$%&!

Maybe it's a good thing that I'm held up until next weekend to do the install. I have all of the wiring for the front of the car lighting and stuff terminating at butt connectors just below the master cylinder, I need to sort through the aftermarket fuse box wires and attach the appropriate color coded wires to those butt connectors. Now, without the engine and radiator in the car, I can easily reach them with the car up on the lift and me standing in the engine compartment at eye level and reaching through the radiator opening to do the hook ups. If I put the engine in I'll have to lay on top of the fenders and reach down into the nose area to do the hook ups. Better to do it now and put the wasted days waiting for parts to good use.
 

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I made new longer coolant lines today. Each one is now 2 1/2 feet longer and the coil looks similar in size to what's in my GTX car. If you compare with the pic above, it's hard to believe that they are 2 1/2 feet longer, from the ends to the engine pulleys, than the hoses above.:

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Yesterday I tracked down the fuse box kit's labeled wires that needed to go to all the butt connectors for the front lighting that were sitting below the MC and connected them up and ran them through the firewall for later hook up to switches and such. So, with all that front end stuff done I was able to bundle and put yellow sleeves over all those wires:

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And I had overlooked attaching my MC reservoir and tightening all the nuts and bolts on the brake booster support and related attachments. That's now done.:

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I've decided to use the digital tach 8000 pulse per mile sender that came with my power steering.

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So, that wraps up my pre-install stuff and I've decided that tomorrow is the day to put the engine in. I have a one day window of decent temperature, no rain, conditions, time to git'er done.
 

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Engine Installed! Major milestone for this major disaster of a car. Probably the first time it's had an engine in it in 25+ years from back when it was a botched gullwing conversion. It's always nice to see your color schemes, silver in my case, start to come together.
I'm super-impressed by how far you've come with this car. For those who haven't been following the Banana origin story-this is where the journey started.
Great work saving a GT that most of us mere mortals would have abandoned long ago. Give yourself one of these...

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Some tasty work right there.
Having followed your most recent project, Banana, I must say, very impressive work Gordon - and I have enjoyed watching your most recent project evolve from the original concept, gull wing, to now and I am looking forward to seeing you bring it to a fantastic conclusion. While it is around a 10 hour trip, for me, from Mount Pleasant, SC I am thinking that I will just have to put the trip to Carlisle, PA on my list of things to do, so I can see your newest creation in person. Just don't see how I could miss that opportunity. So, will your first showing be this spring or next spring as I am starting to feel the need fo a long GT road trip, while I still have it in me. The last time I took my GT, on that long of a trip which just so happened to be up interstate 81 was back in 1973. I drove from NC to Aliquippa, PA. I recall traveling to Roanoke, VA on 220 and picking up Interstate 81 just beyoung and getting off somewhere around Winchester, Va and then cutting across West Virgina to Pittsburg, Pa. That was a long drive but did not seem that way at the time, it was an adventure. Keep up the excellent work. Best,Carl
 

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Great job Gordo! Was your car originally yellow? That is pretty cool to see that it is still yellow. I love the valve cover!
 

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I'm super-impressed by how far you've come with this car. For those who haven't been following the Banana origin story-this is where the journey started.
Great work saving a GT that most of us mere mortals would have abandoned long ago. Give yourself one of these...

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Gosh! Thanks for the "Seal"!!! I'm honored.
The car has served it's purpose of giving me a challenging project to keep me busy in the early stages of retirement and Covid.


I must say, very impressive work Gordon - and I have enjoyed watching your most recent project evolve. So, will your first showing be this spring or next spring [be at Carlisle?]

Thank you for the accolades! I can't imagine making Carlisle in it this year, I'd have to work my ass off........and I'm purposely trying not to work my ass off. Only when it's a fun thing to do that day. I'm actually very much looking forward to driving my GTX car this year. It's finally working perfectly and I want to enjoy it. The custom fuel injection system the banana will get will no doubt take weeks and months to sort out.........or not. We'll see.


Great job Gordo! Was your car originally yellow? That is pretty cool to see that it is still yellow. I love the valve cover!

A little truism is starting to develope between me and a few guys: All GT's that have been repainted were originally yellow. It's surprising how often this turns out to be true. All 4 of the GT's I've had since 1985 were originally yellow. My 18 years 225K mile GT was originally yellow and I repainted it yellow like 5 times. My Red Baron car was originally yellow, but came to me painted red. My originally yellow GTX came to me as an unfinished project car in primer, but I painted it red. My Gullwing/Banana car came to me in black, but it also was yellow originally.
 
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