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Just Some Dude in Jersey
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It was revealed on Facebook that fellow Opeler Greg Heinz had a garage fire that spread to his house. He lost everything including 5 cars in the garage. My condolences, Greg!

Here's the discussion so far this morning:

<<< My first 2.5L before and after garage fire. Not sure we can save anything but shop said they would look at it... — with Greg Heinz.

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Zane Pratt Beautiful, before picture, that’s a shame.
Greg Heinz I forgot how detailed and beautiful that engine was!!
Mike Pilkenton Not your garage I hope?
Greg Heinz Mike Pilkenton Yes, the garage and the whole damn house!!!
Mike Pilkenton Yours or Charles Goin? Wow!
Zeppi Bauer Pretty bad fire if it melted the aluminum valve cover.
Rally Bob Zeppi, notice the timing cover and intake manifold is completely gone!
Charles Goin Rally Bob Not COMPLETELY.. there are art projects there hanging on.
Greg Heinz Charles Goin The pieces of aluminum on the engine are the only aluminum pieces that survived. I had 5 vehicles in the garage and everything aluminum vaporized including all the rims, intake manifolds on V6’s, everything.
Ronald A Garchar Enough to make you sick.
Charles Goin Aluminium/Melting point - 1,221°F
Charles Goin Iron, out of the ground, melts at around 1510 degrees C (2750°F). Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C (2500°F).
Charles Goin So... my guess is the fire was about 1250°F as the steel oil pan which is thin steel is fine.. Which is why I think the crank and other parts MAY be OK... with cleaning and spec'ing
Greg Heinz Charles Goin The fire inspector said much of the garage reached 1800 degrees F but the motor sat under a window in front of garage about 25 feet from the center of the fire
Charles Goin The remains of the timing cover

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Charles Goin Valve cover

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Charles Goin Surprisingly.. can reuse flange to make new intake.

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Charles Goin Needs new valve train

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Charles Goin BUT.. valves/head maybe reuseable.

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Charles Goin Timing chain not so much

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Zeppi Bauer Any idea what started this fire? To burn down an entire garage and a house... that's pretty intense.
Greg Heinz Zeppi Bauer Suspected Vapor Return line clamp above the cadillac converter and starter on 2005 Mercury Mariner. A week link. Just parked in garage so hot engine.
Zeppi Bauer Wow. Crazy something so small.
Gordon Payton Omigosh this is just awful. Forget the stupid Opel stuff, you must be devastated at your overall loss! How terrible. You lost EVERYTHING in the house, no time to save anything? How many people in the house? Where are you staying now? My sincere condolences at your loss. Thank goodness no one was hurt or worse!

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I had heard from Gil that several Opelers in California had lost there houses and cars during the big fire. A woman with a very nice 2.4 equipped GT had her car vaporized.
 

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Just heartbreaking.

Condolences. I cringe every time I hear about loss from fire.

Need to take stock and adjust all my insurance policies on the classic cars. I can't imagine.
 

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I read somewhere that an African proverb says something .. " When a person dies it's like a library burning down"
I suppose referring to all that individuals lost memories and experiences to no longer share with others.

A burning garage and house is not as tragic as death, but there is a loss that often can't really be replaced.
My brother and his wife lost a house, garage, & barn and EVERYTHING inside to fire in Wyoming last year.
They had built the house over 30 years ago, lost all possessions, computers, photos and souvenirs of world travels.
It took some time to even prove they had fire insurance. Even lost their phones and their paper and plastic identity.

On the positive side..No Opels were harmed in that fire. But my sympathy is for anyone who has suffered that kind of loss.

I was a little alarmed this summer when I smelled smoke.
This desert scrub fire was about 2 miles away, from my driveway it looked like it was in neighbors back yard.
 

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I saw what was left of the melted/burned valve cover from his engine when I visited Charlie.

We had a metal shop in HS and a furnace for melting and pouring aluminum into sand molds. I made a camera tripod and a universal joint out of cast aluminum. Unbelievable hot temperatures required to melt aluminum. There's a local company called Inductotherm that I applied to work at one time. They make the electrodes used to melt aluminum and stuff. I can't imagine what they must be made of to handle enough heat to melt aluminum. Maybe ceramic or something.....
 

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Wow that is just very sad to hear. You can never really understand what someone is going through like what Greg went through unless you have gone through it as well. We can just come along side and support as best as possible. Hope Greg is able to rebuild and move forward to get past this terrible tragedy. A saving grace is life was preserved. Property can be replaced not life :yup:
Thinking and praying for you Greg and your family.
 

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WOW that is terrible news thankfully they are not part of whats lost that's hot hot to do that kinda damage. I wish them the best and I'm sure if there's anything this community can do we will
 
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