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hello Mark.
I haven't drive my gt at the moment, so I don't able to value the power-weight ratio.

There are three ways to make a ligther car
1.- chop,chop, chop: chop all things that not are indispensable. Things like heater, blower, etc. But this is not a clever idea, the way you allows be lighter, makes you to be uncomfortable.

2.- Make your body on fiberglass, carbon fiber, kevlar...: it is a expensive way, but very effective. Do you know "SUSELBEEK" catalog? They have some things on fiberglass. www.opelgtparts.com

3.- Consider mounting an aluminium engine (opel 2.0 16v is a great engine, one of the best that they made). Visit http://home.hetnet.nl/~larsje3/index.html

"lightness go with you...", manu
 

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Thanks, Manu. Yes, lots of cool parts on the Suselbeek/Parsget site . . . did you notice it was "made by Lukas Media"? I believe that would be Stefan Lukas, co-author of "Only Flying is More Beautiful"- that would be another translation of the "Nur Fliegen" book we've discussed on this site. Ah, languages . . . maybe we SHOULD just send out photographs & diagrams, & use text only when we have to. Let me know when you've moved your "J" to Burgos, & begin your restoration!
 

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Manu, besides Suselbeek, where else will you be buying parts for your "J"? I'm wondering what's available in your corner of Europe . . . will your parts come mainly from Holland and Germany?
 

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Hi Mark, Suselbeek is the only one dealer I know about gt's in europe. They are from Holland. It is curious that being in europe, they are US GT's specialist.
There are a lot of clubs on germany. In a lot of them they make a "market place" to change or to sold a lot of pieces.
I know one of this clubs in france. Here in spain is very difficult to find something. Most of people don't know the car, and if you show a photo they sais "Is this realy an opel?".
I found Suselbeek catalog thanks to internet. Also know "opel gt suorce" in your country.
I am sure that must be more dealers in europe, but I don't know them.
 

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Hello guys: I was browsing through the threads and was surprised to read about these GT/J cars. There's two of them here where I live. One is still being driven in Windsor, Ontario by the original owner and one is in storage about 10 miles from where I live and as far as I know it's still there and It needs a new owner. If anyone out there is interested, let me know on my ad site and I'll try to get in touch with the owner. It's red with a red front bumper only. The rear bumpers are chromed. It has very plain black vinyl interior. I can't remember much else. She was asking $4000 CDN for it. She also has a gray GT with a wide black stripe down the center. $5000 CDN was her asking price for this one. Both are '71 4 spd's and are turn keys.

thanks: Dan Papp
 

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GT/Js in Canada?

Really? THAT'S interesting. And we thought they were all in Europe . . . I suppose these cars were "gray market" imported into Canada, & it would be fun to know how and when. I might be interested in one of them myself, Dan. Should you contact the owner, please let me know more about 'em, on or off the site. Haven't bought a car for a few years . . . feeling like one of those American "hard-core collectors" just now! :D
 

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There's a good chance they were imported from someone in the military. Canada is more lenient that way. My uncle is a General in the Canadian Air Force, and he almost brought his 1986 Omega back from Germany. Too bad, I could have driven that sucker back down to the US. Would have cost about $400 to import.

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While they might be grey market GT/Js, I would have to question the chrome bumpers. GT/Js have black bumpers, black trim, solid rubber window channels, a black gascap (slightly different style, too), a blind instrument in place of the clock, and stripes down the sides with the words "GT/J". I believe the carpeting is different, too. Of course, all these items may have been swapped out for U.S. spec GT-A-L ones. But then what would be the point of owning one (from a uniqueness perspective)?
 

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While they might be grey market GT/Js, I would have to question the chrome bumpers. GT/Js have black bumpers, black trim, solid rubber window channels, a black gascap (slightly different style, too), a blind instrument in place of the clock, and stripes down the sides with the words "GT/J". I believe the carpeting is different, too. Of course, all these items may have been swapped out for U.S. spec GT-A-L ones. But then what would be the point of owning one (from a uniqueness perspective)?
 

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I hear you, Walter. I think most GT guys would agree--these cars are only collector's items when left BONE stock. The more the cars have been "molested" by previous owners, the more my interest in them drops, & probably everyone else's, too. Funny how one man's "upgrades" are another's "molestation" . . . maybe chromed rear bumpers look better, but they hurt the car's value & GT collector interest. An original GT/J--rubber floor mats, plain interior, funky gas cap & all--would be the car to find. It's hard to undo some changes, & it's a shame if these two "J"s have been altered much. My thinking was to possibly buy one, & restore it back to original-- leaving it totally as it was sold in Europe, 1971. Bastardizing the car with GT-A-L guages, carpet, rear sidemarkers & so on would make it just another GT.
 

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Ok , I'm back. The true owner of these 2 cars lost a battle with cancer and his fiance' should still have them. I'll make some phone calls and see what the situation is. Give me until the weekend. This guy also had the parts to 3 other complete GTs wrapped and boxed and not to mention that I bought my 70 GT from him in '97 also.
Update May 7/02: The gray car went to an in-law nearby and the red one is still for sale. Apparently it seems to have been painted by a previous owner the way it is because some overspray shows in an area near the front bumper. Sorry about that. What a coincidence that 2 in my area are painted the same way and the same colour. I have the ad posted on my for sale site.

One other thing. There are a lot of Opelers in search of GTs but avoid trying to obtain one in this area. There's enough here to start a car lot. Those of you who want one and never owned one are missing the fun of driving and attracting more attention than any other car (old or new) on the road. So in my opinion, Stop dragging your butts and buy one! You won't regret it if you have a few bucks to own a tinker toy. Our American neighbours should take advantage of our low value dollar here.
 

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Manu, if you'd like to use GT-A-L amp/oil pressure & water temp/fuel guages in your "J" (in other words, if you're not particularly concerned about your car's originality . . . guages ARE superior to warning lights, are they not?), e-mail me with your address & I'll send you the guages. I have plenty of them, believe me, & they may help you keep your engine alive. Just a thought.
 

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hi mark, it is a difficult question.
I first think that keep the original car is the best, but after I think "...If I have had a GTJ on 70's, I'm sure that I have mounted guages on my car". I don't know what to do...
If it is real that you have plety of them, send it me.
You must know that I was surprised with your offer, thans a lot mark.
And now, What about "your" J?

bye, manu.
 

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No problem, Manu. Plenty of guages. I was thinking that you could keep the original warning lights if you ever want to restore the car back to stock, but while you're driving it, the guages would be good to have. Send me your address, & are your other guages yellow-on-black (early GT) or white-on-black (late GT)? They'll look better in the dash if they are the same. And, no, don't have a GT/J yet, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. I will have many questions for you if I do find one! You're the only GT/J owner that I know . . . :D
 

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Well, Manu, I'm glad to hear the guages finally made it to Spain, after 7 weeks or so. Have you had time to pull the dash & install them yet? Hopefully the wiring behind your "J"s dash is similar (or better, identical) to an AL's, but if it isn't, the group here should be able to help. Even if this guage/warning light swap seems like a pain--especially if you haven't done this before--the result should be well worth it. ALWAYS good to know your oil pressure & coolant temperature, right?
 

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interesting thread.

As an aside, DOT and EPA specs apply to vehicles less than 25 years of age. If you are inporting a vehicle from another country that is 25 years or older, it qualifies for 'Exempt' status.

The only possible execption to this is the addition of a newer motor (non-vehicle spec).

Proof of this statment is the recent influx of Austrian-built, Swiss spec, air cooled Steyr Daimler Puch Pinzgauers. I'd post the link, but forgot it. They were built about the same time as the Manta/Ascona/GT, DO NOT conform to DOT/EPA specs (the motors are especially 'dirty' as they are air cooled), but are allowed in under 'collector' status.

I believe all you have to do is prove the vehicle was built more tha 25 years ago, and you get a certificate of exemption. I have a friend who brings in cars from Canada all the time due to the good exchange rate.

Doubt you'll find many good GT's outside the US, though - There were several folks in So Cal buying GT's and shipping them back to Germany when I lived there. The Southwestern US seems to be the last home of rust-free Opels in the world.

There was a guy here in Detroit that had a yellow 'J'. Never did ask him how he got it....
 

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Yeah--it was a good thread, Chuck, & I'm still interested in finding a "J" as the next restoration (still have a couple of bucks left to spend on Opels, in other words), but kind of leery of snow-belt cars, unless they've been stored someplace dry for, say, 31 years. I *believe* the GT/Js were built only in '71. Finding a good, unmolested copy may be really tough, probably better off finding the most rust-free GT-AL I CAN find right here, on the edge of the American desert. Definitely a better climate for Opels to survive the years, I gotta agree. Manu, maybe I should have asked this question first: did the guages make it to Spain undamaged? Trying to remember now if I packaged 'em well enough for the trip overseas . . . & thanks to Dan Papp for checking out the Canadian cars.
 

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Hi,
guages are OK. Now my problem is "a big" different. I'm considering to buy a "new" body, because mine is undoing like butter. I look good bodies in the suselsbeek catalog, and I am thinking to travel to Holland (but it is to expensive to me). Well, in respect to the age of Js, I think it were built in '71, '72 and '73.
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