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Hi guys this is a start of a long journey. I got a 1969 Opel Gt. It has an automatic and a red interior. The original color is silver. We picked it up today It took us about 3 hours. I will make a youtube video maybe this week. The front brakes were stuck so we took the calipers off.Sam
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It was a lot of work but totally worth it!
 
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There is some bondo on the rear "fender flares" that are cracking. Also some one repaired something on the front fender but it isn't correct. The rockers are a little rusty but not that bad. I think I counted 3 rust holes on one side in the rockers. The interior is in great condition! The only thing wrong with the interior is the dash is cracked pretty good and the carpet is a little worn. Also the original tire iron was in there or else we would have wrecked the lug nuts because we forgot to bring metic tools with us.
 
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Several years ago I advised, from afar, a young man your age as he restored an early 1950s Willys (forerunner of Jeep) pickup. He had some advantages that you will need -- experts in the field. First, he had a grandfather that taught welding at the local vocational school -- very important and if you see Bondo and rust holes, you will need this expertise as well (Opel body panels were not sealed well and rust prevention was primitive -- water and dirt would work their way inside, where the rust would start). He also had help from a professional body shop and an engine builder. First thing you need to look for is a copy of the Factory Service Manual. Someone mentioned that the 1969 models were fairly unique to the subsequent years, especially with respect to wiring, but any year's FSM is better than none. Also, make sure you bookmark this link from Opel GT Source:

Best of luck...
My grandpa has a few cars that he is restoring and that have been restored. He has a 1970 triumph spitfire, 1966 mg midget, 1933 american austin, morris travelall, mgb. He has taught me a lot! I am still learning how to weld. I know how to do spread bondo. I have restored a Kohler k241 with his help. The Gt is going to his house because I don't have the room or the tools to work on it. My grandpa and I just want to get it cleaned up and driving. Where do you find FSM at?
 

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Hey You Got a GT,,, Wow,, that really LQQKS COOL
Nice of your Grandfather to Help you out. He sounds like a very wise man, Lots to learn on restoring cars. The Cool Factor is you own a GT. Like Gordon says these Cars are all about the Body. The Rust, and Rotten Metal on these cars is the lack of Rust Protection from the Factory, poor Mild steel, GM must of learned from Opel, and started making cars with Galvanized zinc sheetmetal.
Body Patches, and being a Good welder, try not to patch with bondo or fiberglass filler, in my opinion
I know your anxious to drive it, but as said...Saving the Body...the shell is the most important part,,
maybe time to learn a little sandblasting too..lol

the best Part of saving a GT is being a Jack of all trades, you'll see... I wouldn't park it on anymore Grassy places... to save a GT ..must be parked on black top (y) in my Opinion :)

Good Luck and keep us posted
I think we might do a rotissry restoration on it. I think we are going to clean it and then get it started. Then we will take it apart. This will be a long restoration.

Thanks for all the help everyone.
 

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Your grandfather is an LBC (Little British Car) nut! Cool! I have a 1964 Triumph Spitfire. When I was not much older than you, I was the "furrin' car" specialist in a Texaco station -- most of the iron I worked on was Triumph and MG, although one of our customers had an E-Type Jag that I coveted. Then there was the Europa...

FSM: This link should get you somewhere:

You can also place a request in the "Parts Wanted" section of the "Opel Ad Board" on this forum -- on occasion there will be a member with an FSM that he is willing to part with.

As for your exhaust system question on another thread, as others have indicated, you have a system cobbled together by a previous owner or a muffler shop. You will need the following parts to bring it back to original configuration (Opel GT Source parts numbers)
Front muffler #10005
Hanger bracket for #10005 -- #10018
Connector pipe (runs over the axle #10006
Rear resonator (includes the twin tail pipes) #10007
Rear resonator hanger bracket #10021
This assumes you have a solid OEM header pipe (OGTS #10004)
Rubber hangers (4 required) #10008
Pipe clamps (3 required) #10022
I think I am going to keep the exhaust how it is as long as it sounds good and it is loud.
 

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I am very jealous of your opportunity, the beginning of a very long project and the fact that you have a grandfather that has the knowledge and desire to help you with this awesome protect and the help of this forum and all of the information accumulated over the past 20 plus years.. To mirror some of the other comments and go a step further - you will be tempted to rush the process with the need/desire to just get this car on the road. A very natural reaction even more so with a " young GT lover". But this project is going to take a lot of time and a lot money and you cannot rush perfection or even a good daily driver that is 50 years old, safety is always a major concern especially when just getting started and you don't know hat you have - don't get in a rush as you will just have to go back and do things a second and third time. Any car of the age of your car but even more so an Opel GT is virtually going to need to have everything replace. Someone on this forum once told me that an Opel GT is kind of like a Bic pen, disposable. They really were not made to last, not like today's cars. So take your time and enjoy the journey, bask in every successfully completed project and move on to the next project as there will always be another project. Good luck to you my young friend. Again you are very lucky to have a great car to start the project, a skilled and caring Grandfather, and a forum with 20 + years of information at your disposable and a group of people that are willing and able to answer your questions to help you achieve your goals. Now, let's make it happen! There are a lot of step - It felt really great when I got to this step:
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And the next step was also so rewarding - when after all of the preperation was done and the car was ready for paint and then painted - I was rewarded with the opportunity to begin to put it all back together again - that was one of the most exciting things I have ever done in my life and I took my time and enjoyed putting back every new or reconditioned part as I spent months, years, putting my car back together. So much fun. But I rushed it so now I am doing things I should have done 25 years ago. I blame myself of course but also the fact that I did the majority of my work before the forum existed so I could not just post a question - wish I could have as that would have saved so much time and prevented so many mistakes...........................
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Replacing each little part, each big part, each step, was so rewarding and I know that I speak for so many of the members of this forum. And how long does it go on for, well, as long as you want depending on your goal. Again if looking for a daily driver this is not the route you want to take but you still have to be patient as the same rules apply just to a lesser extent.
Again best wishes to you and your grandfather on this wonderful project. Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help you from a distance. Best Regards, Carl
Thanks so much!!!! I talked to my grandpa tonight and it sounds like we are going to do the major body work like the rust and get it running and driving so it is like a daily driver. I don't have that much money to do a full blown restoration so I am going to do a decent one. When I have enough money and I am older(I am 14) i will restore it the proper way. I am probably going to buy a 1990-1991 Honda Prelude Si for my daily driver($500) and I am still looking to buy my great uncles other Gt a 1971-1972 Gt. I am still saving my money for these opportunities.
How much did your paint job cost? My grandpa and I were looking at the correct paint and It was around $100 a quart. So my grandpa thinks it would be around $300 to paint it. We might just use rustoleum spray paint. That is what my grandpa used on his spitfire and so far it looks good.

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The cost can depend on the color. When I had my GT done, the restoration shop told me that yellow tends to be the priciest. A metallic will also be more expensive. Also depends on what type of product you use. Base coat-clear coat will often be more expensive than single stage urethane. Each has advantages and disadvantages. I think Rustoleum rattle can is the last option, maybe even lower. Find a local auto body shop supplier and pick his brains.
I want to paint it the original color silver. My grandpa is going to see what the local body shop costs for that paint.
 

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Here is a youtube video of us pulling the Gt out of the barn.
 

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Lots of excitement! When was this car parked? How's the varmint situation?🦝
The tries are from 1996 and they are almost brand new so we think maybe 1997-1999. There has not been any animals that we can see that were in the car the interior is in amazing condition. The only animal tracks are the ones over the car and a turd on top of the car.
 

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FYI: Back in the 90's I painted a GT with 24 cans of rattle can yellow Rustoleum. 3 coats total over the whole exterior. 6 months later it started turning to dust. No amount of waxing would stop the paint from oxidizing to dust. Had to have Maaco repaint it. Now, granted, it was old school, low tech, 90's Rustoleum. Modern paints are much better. Maaco adds a hardener and a sunscreen to the paint, I don't know if this is common in other body shop paint jobs.

Clear coat can be very beneficial. Eastwood makes a clear coat called "Diamond Clear" that is very good and a number of us use it. I've never used it on the body, but I use it to seal my painted engines and the various hardware under the car, like the suspension and drivetrain.
I think we are going to us rustolouem paint and us a spray gun to paint it. My grandpa did this and it worked amazing and was cheap.
 

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Recommend that you search the web on what is available out there, paint by the quart, and compare not only prices but quality - and no disrespect intended but keep in mind that you may look at this in a totally different way in just a few years. For example I took my 16 year old daughter out to look at used cars - well like a lot of 16 year olds she fell in love with every car she saw, 4 wheels and the freedom of owning a car was really all that she could see, at that point in time - so I steered her to the right choice which she was very happy with. Moral of the story listen to eveyone, do your own research and then make your decision, but with that said don't make it just based on $$. It is going to take you months to prepare this car for paint so in the mean time start saving money toward your paint or paint job. I know one thing for sure you need to be really happy with the finial results because if your aren't happy, well you will be doing it over again much sooner than you can imagine. Good Luck
One day I will do a correct restoration on it when I have the time and money, but now I just want to get it running and driving. So we are going to do the body pretty good but not perfect. It will just kind of be a fun and learning car to work on.
 

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I think that's the right spirit of it.

Nothing is as encouraging and motivating as a car that you can actually drive. Any project that's sitting and waiting for its perfect restoration, isn't bringing you joy.

Everything you love about it, you will love.
Everything you hate about it, you will be motivated to change.

It's very easy once you start taking it apart, for a "quick" project to turn into a 10 year project that you don't even care about anymore. I'd say that's 90% of people's car projects (and projects in general). You're seeing a survivorship bias of people who've stuck with it.

Making it nice is something that takes time to figure it all out, source and shop, and just to make decisions. Might as well have an uglier car you're driving around during that whole time. Plus, it's hard to figure out what you want to do to your car if you're not driving it. The things you'll want to prioritize will remind you about themselves every day.
YES! That is one reason I just want to enjoy it! I won't be able to work on it all day for so many days a week, because the car isn't at my house. Your reasoning definitely sums up my reasons.
 

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Here is part 2 of the GT.
 

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A lot happened yesterday, WE GOT IT STARTED!

We changed the oil, cleaned it, checked spark, and it started in the first 10-20 seconds of turning it over! We ran it for about 2 minutes. It was steaming a lot in that time period. Today we are going to check the water pump to make sure it wasn't stuck and the water was flowing. The oil that was in it was bad! We were just spraying gas in it the carb. We are going to take the carb apart today too.

How do you clean the gas tank, do you have to take it out of the car? There was a huge trail of dirt from the exhaust once we got it started.

A youtube video of it will be coming soon!
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Is this the correct distributor cap? It didn't fit on the distributor correctly, but it started the car!

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Also we might try to drive it today or tomorrow if we can get everything working correctly.
 

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Be careful out there. Yes the gas tank needs to be removed then cleaned. In the meantime putting a small plastic 10 micron fuel filter before the carburetor is a good idea until you can get the gas tank squared away. Rest assured that the gas tank is going to be badly in need of cleaning. Glad you started it up and got it running.
We might clean the tank, if not we will just put a makeshift tank on the roof or something like that.
 

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I stayed at my grandparents house for the last few days and we got a lot done! I drove my first car, my fist Opel Gt, and my first car with no brakes! On the first drive I just shifted into park when I wanted to stop. Then we got the e-brake working and I stopped with that the next day. We made sure the thermostat was working. We order a bunch of brake lines and brake stuff from rock auto parts. The gas tank is leaking so the next thing we will do is start taking the interior apart to see what is wrong with the tank. Then we will put the brakes back together. We had to split the calipers because the pistons wouldn't come out with air. We pressed them and eventually got them out with screw drivers. We may have chipped the pistons:0

We will fix the rockers before we drive it down the road.
Videos are coming soon!
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