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Out with the old, in with the new, plus my "engine sled" for transporting and moving engines around on my property/basement.

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The previous engine, the 4sp auto tranny, and an old block(Clean and painted, Charlie can make a really uncomfortable and heavy footstool out of it!).

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Out with the old, in with the new, plus my "engine sled" for transporting and moving engines around on my property/basement.

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The previous engine, the 4sp auto tranny, and an old block(Clean and painted, Charlie can make a really uncomfortable and heavy footstool out of it!).

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Yea.. more autoparts to kick around in my garage..

Goal was to clean out all the parts ;P
 

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Yeah, maybe I'll just leave the block on the curb for the trash men or the scrappers to take. :veryhappy

Pic of my engine on Charlie's test stand getting broken in and tested before I fetch it this Saturday.


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OOOOOPPPPSS! I goofed. I'm at work and can't fix the pic. It wasn't a memorable pic.


Aw shucks, due to various issues and scheduling problems, I won't be able to get the engine this weekend, the next weekend is OctopelFest, I've got an event to go to the weekend after that, so no progress to report for the next few weeks.

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The modified(?) Manta B motor mounts and some silver painted Motronic injector holders arrived from Norbert:

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As advertised, the mounts are a good 1/2" ~ 12mm shorter. He says that they were modified, but I don't know in what way.

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The modified(?) Manta B motor mounts and some silver painted Motronic injector holders arrived from Norbert:

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As advertised, the mounts are a good 1/2" ~ 12mm shorter. He says that they were modified, but I don't know in what way.

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Wish I had a set of those mounts when I did my 2.2, it would have been soooo much easier to fit the injection manifold in. Norbert is a good friend!
 

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Probably dumb question, but why would you need the motor mounts shorter?
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Probably dumb question, but why would you need the motor mounts shorter?
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Therein lies one big reason why putting original Opel FI in a GT is a big deal, why you don't see more GT's with it, and one reason why many put aftermarket FI on their cars with individual throttle bodies at each cylinder and their own custom, lower, air plenum. More so the reason why installing Motronic instead of Jetronic is difficult. If you read back in this thread you'll see that I had to modify the cowling and grind some of the FI manifold off so that it wouldn't hit the cowling. The intake manifolds are too tall to fit under a GT hood. Even the '75 Jetronic manifolds from Manta's are a little too tall and it's better to use the later Jetronic manifolds from 2.2L engines. The 2.2's are a little shorter in height that the 2.0 ones. The manifold for the Motronic system I'm installing is HUGE and is a good 1" or more taller than a 2.0. No way could you fit it under the hood unless heavily modified. Hence, we're using a 2.2 Jetronic manifold on this Motronic system instead of the 2.0 or 2.4 manifolds. If I had these shorter motor mounts from the start, I probably wouldn't have had to mod the cowling and grind the manifold.

Thank goodness I have the help of Charlie and Norbert and all the rest of you to cobble together all the parts and especially the knowledge to pull this off.

And even with all these alternate parts and hard to find knowledge, I still have to do some customizing of my own to make it fit, work, and look car show acceptable. The shorter aftermarket throttle body, the modded Motronic fuel rail(many use the more adaptable Jetronic one), the Edelbrock FI conversion fuel pump, etc., just to name a few.

Add to all that the predicament that this FI conversion came about because I had engine issues that caused me to have to replace my engine.

I was perfectly happy with my single side draft set up. It looked cool and fired right up like an FI car every time and was fast as schitt. But, engine issues beyond my control doomed it. I got 2 really fun years out of it, so I got some of my investment back. Now I'm on to a new adventure with the FI. I needed a new adventure, so it's all good.

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Yea wish I knew about the shorter mounts, the other two GTs I have done had stock mounts.

One was really tight as it was a 2.0L Intake with a flange to make it fit a 2.4L head so it was even larger than the stock 2.0L one.

That said still less work than Dual Side drafts.
 
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Okay Norbert is back today at home.
I wrote as I think a lot of nonsens last week.Sorry, the medicine I must take goes verry bad with my
brain.

Gordon
Eat a piece of Marzipan and keep calm my friend.
Here is the picture what was still missing to understand.I sent a PM too.



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Thanks Gordo, that makes sense now. Think of your new adventure as blazing the trail for others :lmao:
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Probably dumb question, but why would you need the motor mounts shorter?
Dan
First I must tell.I allways was and be a downdraft fuzzy.
The 2.2 swap was and is a dream I have since I buy the second GT I owned.
So my Friend Hartmut make my dream come true.
Really ,It is a huge different between a carb and a FI GT.
Please not missunderstand the DSD racers here.DSD are real champs in power.
You never reach them with a FI.:no:
But for my self I want to go FI with Automatic for best economie.

@Charlie and all
The Manta B motor mounts are perfect to match the 2.2 intake to the Opel GT Shell.
So you need no Hammer for fit the 2.2 intake.
Hartmut and most 2.4 and 2,2 owners used the 2.2 intake.Okay mine is stock.But a lot Opeler goes
near the gasket line by grind away material at the intake manifold.

Here are three pictures where Manta B Motor Mounts are used.You see nothing,why? The level fit Perfect.
Good Job by Hartmut.
Gordon get the last two sets from Horst in massiv design with closed bottom.The same I used.





 

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Thanks for clearing that up Norbert.

Not shown, the bottoms of the Manta B mounts I received are flat steel, unlike the apparently cast aluminum, hollow-cubicalized, oem mounts. I can't say I've noticed the notch thing, but I guess it would become apparent when I install the mounts.

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I seem to recall hearing something about the clearance thing in GT's with the boxier 2.2/2.4 valve covers. I don't know what to tell you. The front of a GT valve cover does angle downwards. I guess you would have to somehow try to measure your present clearance with the hood closed and go from there. The 1/2" lowering of the engine will have several effects, maybe more. The fan will end up 1/2" lower in relation to the radiator and oem shroud. The headpipe of the exhaust will drop down 1/2". In my case, this is a plus because my custom headpipe is a little too close to the frame rail. I suppose if you have one of the taller oem 1.9 intake manifolds and you have issues with the air cleaner or cold air intake adapter hitting the hood, these mounts might help fix that.

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I can work with most of that. I am running a pusher fan, and have no head pipe, for the 2.4 flange yet. I am running Norbert's 2.2 intake. I would love to use the 2.4 cover, because I painted it to match the motor, but I have a few 1.9 covers, that could be refinished.

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I can work with most of that. I am running a pusher fan, and have no head pipe, for the 2.4 flange yet. I am running Norbert's 2.2 intake. I would love to use the 2.4 cover, because I painted it to match the motor, but I have a few 1.9 covers, that could be refinished.

Wes
Wes
Both cover will fit.But the 2.4 cover need a special rubber gasket and special bolts with seal rings.
I use the original GT Cover without any problems.
I remember Gordons chromie GT cover we must repair in the basement.:ugh:
Do you also use the 2.2 ignition box or you go with the much better 2.4 motronic 1.5?

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