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I changed my oi,filter, And PUMP COVER AND GASKET..which I bought from OGTS.My oil pressure has been running at 1 bar when warm,So I thought I would change the cover to increase
the pressure.

after these changes.. I now have no pressure. I ran the engine for 30 sec ..no pressure... I reprimed thur the spring hole and filled the filter with oil. and ran for another 30 sec..no pressure...

I did a search..learned I should pull the coil wire..I did that and cranked the engine till it was almost dead(1- 2 min) ,...still no pressure...


What can I do to get pressure back?
 

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One thing you might check.....I'd assume that the new cover from OGTS has the relief valve in it. The older engines had the relief valve in the timing cover. If you are using the new style cover, you must shim up the old relief valve so it will not open. OGTS should have sent directions for this with the cover.
Worth a look.
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I filled my pump housing with vaseline. Pulled all the sparkplugs and cranked the engine. Turned over real fast with no plugs and no compression forces too. It got pressure in less than 10 sec...my primer plug was frozen.

Do you think you could have pressure but it is not showing on the gage? Maybe try a mechanical gage?
 

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I pulled the cover plate...and I tried to hold it level..and I filled all the chambers with new oil ..I tried to hold it level while I screwed it back to place.still no oil pressure.gauge was working yesterday and there is no oil in the chambers wwhen I pulled it for re-inspection.

the cover plate looks like the old one
 

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I ahve primed it..i think

1)I took off my mechanical fuel pump and put 6- 8 oz there.


pumped a bunch and still no pressure.

2- retry-took off the spring -ball ,and pumped 3-4 oz in there..
still no pressure..I am afraid to start the car..i have
the coil wire off.. no pressure.
 

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got pressure!

I guess I am an idiot.

I primed everwhere but where it needed.

there is a square nut below the mechanical pump...and above
the hole and ball spring.

I now have pressure ..thanks everyone..

tomorrow is going to be a beautiful day and I wanted to drive celeste to work:D
 

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pressure is better

success..I drove celeste this am...runs excellent. Oil pressure is up 3/4 to 1 bar+ the 1 bar old.Oil pressure= 2 bar.this is good.

it is surprising that the oil pump cover would make that much difference. if you look at my prior post and compared the old part and the new part..the old one was scored a bit..just looked like scratches to me...I guess it makes a difference.

what is learned is:you have to prime in the right exact spot..for my car it was the square threaded plug below the fuel pump.
 

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Take a look at that plastic bullet and the seat it fits into on the old cover.

My old cover looked pretty good too. I think that valve was not sealing right.

Garry
 

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Another fine mess that you have gotten yourself into- and thankfully out of. Congrats on having the tenacity to suck it up and move another notch up the learning curve. Don't you ever sleep?;)
 

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double flash is gone

on the lunch hour I went out to my car and fixed the double flash on the turn signal indicators..you cut the the yellow black wire on the flasher,ground the loose end.double flash is gone BUT now r is left and left is right on the panel. A quick switch of the bulb unit and I was done in 30 min..this is so nice to have this fixed too..
W/o th is site and these folks here ..it would not happen for me.

truman..thanks for your help with Lindsays subaru.it was fine this am.

:D
 

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leaks

oil pressure was good ..till I ran out of oil on the way home from work..I shut her down and walked to the nearest store that
had oil.

I got her home and this is what I got....I loosened the cover and the gasket looked tight against the block.


I dont know if this silicone gasket is the best to use but its all I got.

I am going to reseal it it tonight with silicone..I am posting this question because I was concerned about the film thicknest of silicone
gasket compared to paper gasket.

question:willl this silicone pose a problem?
 

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sloppy

i think i found the problem.
 

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its fixed

I hope some other newbie learns from my mistakes.
no leak now...good oil pressure.
 

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That you keep learning is the important thing. Especially when you are driving a antique car. Lots of young drivers, to me, seem to want to pay big bucks and have someone else do the work. And by sharing info, like you have, is a good charactor trait to have.
Even us oldtimers make basic little mistakes from time to time.:D
 

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Give yourself credit for shutting her down and not giving in to adversity. Lessons come at a price, don't they?
The RVP should work, well combined with cleaning the mating surface. I hope that you were able to drive Celeste this AM.
 

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she purrs

celeste purrred like a kitten this am....no leaks..I cleaned the mating surfaces with a razor blade.i reused the new paper gasket,..apparently there is no tolerance for debris..

I also noticed that the leaking was worse where I had the most debris

my oil pressure is good,,holding @ 2 bars when warm..

PS:Stephen,the "oldopelguy"who drives a kadette,may be passing thru KC in the next few months...this would be a good reason for our missouri and kansas opelers to get together.
Old hippie,truman,houserc,kcopel,dan101 ,tomking,and others I cant recall off the top of my head...are you in?

it is so nice not to have to schedule around a mechanic!
 

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Garrymc's comment "Take a look at that plastic bullet and the seat it fits into on the old cover"

You guys should consider using the cast iron oil pump cover from the diesel version, available in Europe. It has a metal bullet, gives much better pressure at idle, and doesn't allow over pressurisation at high RPM.

The Vauxhall/Opel Part Number for the cast iron oil pump cover is 3448844.

Maybe someone could get Opel GT Source (or similar) to stock it. It costs about £15 in the UK.

Pic 1,

and pic2.
 

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Re: she purrs

bucky said:
PS:Stephen,the "oldopelguy"who drives a kadette,may be passing thru KC in the next few months...this would be a good reason for our missouri and kansas opelers to get together.
Old hippie,truman,houserc,kcopel,dan101 ,tomking,and others I cant recall off the top of my head...are you in?
I'll actually be driving through on Wed, the 29th of this month on my way, my very long way, to my sisters wedding. The next time I'm that way will probably not be until after I get out of the Navy, next August. Any time after that I'll probably be at every Opel get together in SD, IA, NE, KS, MN and ND. You guys will be just plain sick of me.

Don't feel too bad Bucky, at least you didn't have a fire.
 

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oil verses gas

when the engine was running and oil was dripping..i couldn't quite
see the exact location of the drip..some dripped on my head and all over..soon i figured out that motor oil has no taste...now this is opeling!

PS:\truman,on the way to work today..traffic was backed up..i ran over a
smoldering cigarette...I thought of you ...I think when you drove
celeste,(leaking gas,vacuum leaks ,rusted clutch cable,no wipers,no washer,plastic fork in dash..to stop the rattle) ,no bolt in steering wheel,back from california for me...your departed relatives must of been sitting on your shoulder.

today was an awesome day in kc...I took off for lunch.not to eat..,but to drive celeste on a meaningless errand.she really likes the mild weather...runs really good.
 
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