[PROPEL]

While researching truck-related propane conversions, I uncovered this surprising link. I don't suppose the site author is a member of our forum.


http://xfrias.tripod.com/Opel_GT/Opel_GT.html

 

[nobody]

I imagine it's the same person.

http://www.opelgt.com/forums/member.php?u=17074

 

[soybean (R.I.P.)]

While researching truck-related propane conversions, I uncovered this surprising link.
http://xfrias.tripod.com/Opel_GT/Opel_GT.html

Very interesting reading. I noticed there were no dates listed though, and I'd be curious to see how it ends up. Jarrell

 

[jeff denton]

Wow. Very intense icky-rigging going on there... I always admire those who use household wire nuts on a car...
By the way, until very recently I often had to work on a local fleet of 2-ton Ford propane delivery trucks which just happen to run on, you guessed it, propane. They suck. The systems I've seen are not real high quality components, certainly not engineered for every day, all day hard running. Said local fleet is replacing them all with new Freightliners (tad better than Ford) which run on diesel, like all trucks should!
Were I entirely out of my mind and considering using propane on a truck, I would research them very carefully, get testimonials from owners who have had them run a long time.
Well, that's just my opinion...

 

[bear]

When I was working for the Navy, they had some liquid propane fueled vehicles. Got to talk to the operators and they all said the same thing about the propane vehicles vice the same vehicles gas powered. The propane fueled were really down on power and mileage as compared to their gas powered clones. So I guess the only real reason to go propane is the cost per mile, at least for the time being. I remember when diesel fuel was a lot cheaper than gas, then diesel cars came on the scene.

 

[yellaopelgt]

if I'm not mistaken, I could swear that there was a propane powered opel gt on e-bay a while back???I believe it was a proto-type of some sort and it sold for decent$$$$. does anyone else remember this or am I dreaming??

 

[NudeAutoMall]

Yep PROPEL, and nobody, I'm here, one in the same. She runs fine on propane, but she has gained the name Tumbleweed, every time I get one thing fixed another brakes. Would like to see how she preforms on the road, and get into some modifications to inprove performance and milage on Propane, in time I hope.

And Jeff, hey it works and I'm having fun. And I like the way some use shipping crates to make the floor boards of their automobile, heck, old Henery cobbled his way right into one of the worlds largest automobile manifactures.

yellaopelgt, eBay, not mine, would have been interested in seeing her though.

 

[jtb]

Propane OK

Hi,

Lots of propane vehicles (and Natural gas (CNG) too) around my neck of the woods. I've had two trucks on propane. Last one I had was a Vialle system (Italian). Had a few problems with it. My current truck (76 ford 460) is on an Impco system, and runs great. Tuning is different for propane, runs about 10 degrees more advance for ignition timing, loves higher compression. Higher combustion temperature means stellite exhaust seats for old beasts like mine, most newer vehicles have this already. In fact, Ford and Chrysler both have factory CNG vehicles. (Maybe propane too, I don't know)
They've been doing propane conversions around here for over 30 years, I think the bugs are worked out by now, but the old rumours still persist about lack of power, blah blah blah. Runs clean for emmisions, and cost of fuel is almost half that of gas (how else could I drive a 460?)

Just my 2 cents,

jtb

 

[NudeAutoMall]

Hi namba209 sory I mist your post, true cost is a big isue, Propane has 80% btu compared to gasoline. $1.20 to $140 a gallon to $2.50 to $3.00 I think that ought to cut my weekly driving costs in half. And it is hard to say as much as propane is quite natorious for it's smell, but it is much better for the environment. This world would do much better if we all drove on a deverse aray of fuels, to say nothing of making it much harder for Oligopolies / Monopolies to decide how much money "WE" are going to have to do without this round.

As for power, true I don't forsee 80% surpasing, but efficiency, propane being a gas verses a liquid is easer to get a more complete burn, well enough tweeking and you get a surprisingly competitave propane dragster as written up by one of the members of my Propane Conversions WebRing.

jtb, ya they use to be pretty common out this way too, but they have all seemed to disapear.

 

[cherokee]

I thaught LP had major problems when the outside temps fell below zero, Had problems on propane forklifts when left outside in the winter....it sucked.
Perhaps it is apples and oranges.

 

[2 Fast 4 U]

I drive my '72 Ascona on LPG for about 6 years and never had any problems, it's wonderful because for a liter gas I pay 50.4 euro cent and for a liter gas 128.9 euro cent [one liter = 0.26 Gallon]

 

[NudeAutoMall]

Yes Cherokee, Propane use to have a problem with freezing, but even on blistering hot days. The problem was, as in referidgeration, ristricting the flow of a gas under preshure. That is why newer ForkLifts have a heated Regulator. Beyond that, even Gasoline asorbs Water and freezes, I can belive Propane does too. 2 Fast 4 U, did you add the Propane yourself?

 

[2 Fast 4 U]

Yes Cherokee, Propane use to have a problem with freezing, but even on blistering hot days. The problem was, as in referidgeration, ristricting the flow of a gas under preshure. That is why newer ForkLifts have a heated Regulator. Beyond that, even Gasoline asorbs Water and freezes, I can belive Propane does too. 2 Fast 4 U, did you add the Propane yourself?

What do you mean: did you add the Propane yourself?
If I instald it in the car myself?
No I didn't it was already in the car when I bought it, but I had to make some modifications to meet up to safty regulations
I think the LPG installation was installed when the car was new back in '72, the only thing I installed was a new liquid to gas converter about a year ago

 

[NudeAutoMall]

Yes that is what I was asking, thanks. Always looking for people who have done their own conversions for the WebRing
http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=propaneconversio