Roller Rocker Arm Group Buy

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TGSI Racing

Discussion Starter · Aug 18, 2003

I have just gotten off the phone with the folks that made the original red/blue roller rocker arms a few years back. In another thread I mentioned that I would try to put together a group buy. This can now become a reality!

Of course, the price will depend on the size of the "buy". I think that even for a small "buy" the price will be under $500. Even less if enough folks go in on this. This will include everything you need to install the rocker arms.

I know that folks have gotten "burned" by another "outfit" that took the money and ran. I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do about that. What I can do is assure you that I've been in the Opel performance business for a long time... I'm not going away.

I would like to put this all together fairly quickly... say two weeks. I would need about $250 for deposit at that time... ballance when the stuff ships.

So, I need to know how many people would want "in". You can email me directly, [email protected] or I will answer questions here.

Please, let's try and keep this thread from diverging from group buy discussions. The other two threads on roller rocker arms are good threads for information and discussion.

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Geek

· #61 · May 27, 2004

I don't want to lecture (but I'm going to anyway). I also had a deal with Bob D. go south for various reasons, and he completely refunded my money. I can understand the frustration involved with sending out a lot of money and not seeing the return. The point of this post - we should try to keep people who are willing to make specialty Opel parts in buisness. There are very few people/shops who are willing or able to make the high performance Opel parts that the Bobs do (not that one Bob has anything to do with the other, they just are both specialists), we should encourage them to continue offering their services. Every time there is a bad exchange, we run the risk of losing an Opel asset. I'm not saying that Bob D should get a free pass, but are we better off if he never offers Opel parts again? Just my two cents worth.

tomking

· #62 · May 27, 2004

Your lecture doesnt make too much sense to me. I agree with keeping people in business that make specialty Opel parts. But if those people wont/cant/refuse to make refunds when they are absolutely due then I for one would do no more business with them. So far Bob D hasnt done anything he told me he was going to do. He indicated he was mailing my refund on May 10. The mail isnt that slow as it hasnt arrived yet. If his word isnt any good then he doesnt deserve to stay in business. If his word is good then he will get over his occasional bad deals.

Paul

· #63 · May 27, 2004

I agree with Geek, Bob D is still an asset to the Opel community. He brings a lot of performance/racing wisdom to the table. I sorry for Bob D and any customers that are having a difficult time completing a transaction. I for one am a satisified customer of his. I hope that when I need to do business with him the future that he will not only be available as a vendor, but as a capable vendor with a good reputation.

I wish Bob D all the best. I hope his business reputation gets well soon.

Paul

PS Without Bob D, Bob Squared becomes Bob L.

GoinManta

· #64 · May 27, 2004

samdog said:
Hey everyone out there looking for roller rockers they are here in stock ready to go...Chris Johnson and Rally Bob have figured out the complete project...the intire kit is available now. I know Bob Denard {tgsi racing} has been trying to do a rocker project, which admitantly has taken longer than expected...as many of these projects do...and also end up costing more due to the simple fact that these prodject just get more involved than initally intended. What is available now is a proven design by Bob Legere aka Rally Bob from a roller rocker prodject 10 years ago that he did with Roger Wilson. The kits include the roller rockers. the lash caps, and the poly locks for $665 usd. For those of you that want stud girdles they are also in stock for another $135usd. plus shipping.
I am not looking to take business from tgsi, since he has offered refunds to the group buyers, and I know my product costs more...I'm sure tgsi will be costing more too...Well if there is interest in buying them I have them in stock. Thank you Samdog.

Just my 2 Cents.

I saw the sets SamDog had at Carlisle they looked great.. He even showed them installed on his motor. So they do exist..

SamDog, as I mentioned in Carlilse hold me a set of 6, I will get them in the next month. Don't go selling them to the Netherlands just yet.

Travis

· #65 · May 27, 2004

GoinManta said:
SamDog, as I mentioned in Carlilse hold me a set of 6

6? Gonna install half a set on the Bitter?

-Travis

GoinManta

· #66 · May 27, 2004

Opel 1.9L = 4 cyl
Bitter 3.9L = 6 cyl

So yep.. need one and a half sets. At least thats what my mathc omes up with

Travis

· #67 · May 27, 2004

GoinManta said:
Opel 1.9L = 4 cyl
Bitter 3.9L = 6 cyl

So yep.. need one and a half sets. At least thats what my mathc omes up with

But normal people install them on both the instake and exhaust. Gonna need a set of 12 which would be 1-1/2 sets BTW...

-Travis

PROPEL

· #68 · May 27, 2004

I'm no math genius, but shouldn't that be two and a half sets?

GoinManta

· #69 · May 27, 2004

Hm...

One set: 8 rockers (2 x 4)

Need : 12 rockers (2 x 6)

8 goes into 12

One and a half times..

Am I missing something? :Þ

GTJIM (R.I.P.)

· #70 · May 28, 2004

"Sets"

Nobody had a similar run in with semantics recently when buying rod bearings. He was sent a "set" of two shells for one rod instead of the complete engine set of eight shells for four rods!

Charles, I think there was a lurking suspicion that you had come up with some "killer" power producing scheme that required the use of only six roller rockers - instead of six "sets" of two (inlet and exhaust for each cylinder).

PROPEL

· #71 · May 28, 2004

GoinManta said:
Hm...

One set: 8 rockers (2 x 4)

Need : 12 rockers (2 x 6)

8 goes into 12

One and a half times..

Am I missing something? :Þ

Sorry, Charles!

I thought you were buying a set for your 6-cyl. Bitter AND your 4-cyl. 1.9. Hence, two and a half sets.

tomking

· #72 · Jun 5, 2004

Well my thanks to SAMDOG as my roller rockers from him have arrived. I too saw his rockers at Carlisle and told him I wanted to buy a set but didnt bring my check book with me. He took me on my word and gave me the valve cover spacer and stud girdle to carry back home with me as he didnt like to ship them. So with those pieces and came home and sent him a check for the rockers and stud girdle. Today my rocker set arrived. I appreciate the way in which he treated me and trusted me. I will be installing these in a 1.9 to 2.4 conversion currently being built. Now I need to choose a cam and get it here. Thanks again SAMDOG it was a pleasure doing business with you.

PS: No, I have yet to hear from Bob Dennard or worse yet get my promised deposit back for that deal on rockers which did not happen. SAMDOG has the goods and can deliver the goods as he said.

oklaopel

· #73 · Jun 5, 2004

That is good that you got your rockers. I, too, have not heard from Bob Dennard though I sent him 200 bucks 6 months ago for a fan kit that is on "backorder". He did offer a refund in February, which I refused, but accepted in March, April and May...if he got my emails. I suppose I may get my money back some time, but at this point I am not counting on it. I have sent probably 3-5 emails with no response. After reading what some folks have posted, that he is an honest, reliable Opel resource, I just have to say if that is the case he is certainly slow.

samdog

· #74 · Jun 5, 2004

roller rockers

Thank you, tomking, for your post. I am looking forward to doing business with many other opelers such as yourself . Keeping each and every customer happy is the only way to do business. Thanks again, tomking, Samdog

tomking

· #75 · Jun 13, 2004

Yesterday by snailmail I recieved a check from Bob Dennard of TGSI for my deposit. Tomorrow I will deposit it in the bank.

oklaopel

· #76 · Jun 13, 2004

Good for you! I suppose I can hope for an equally positive outcome. However, I have not heard from BD/TGSI, though he should have my mailing address as that was where he was supposed to have sent my fan kit that I ordered, and paid for (200.00 bucks) in January. Since my most recent several emails, I've not heard and word, so am not going to hold my breath. What I asked of him was the refund of my money via paypal, which is the way I paid him in the first place. I suppose, alternatively, I could request that he paint my name somewhere on the TGSI racing Opel as a sponsor, though I never intended to make a "contribution" to the TGSI racing fund.

Gary

· #77 · Jun 13, 2004 (Edited)

Thread closed.
It is starting to take a wrong turn.

oklaopel

· #78 · Jan 28, 2005

refund received

just a note to let the list know that I did receive a full refund from Bob Dennard (TGSI) for the fan kit. It took a while, but he came through, so I take back all those things I said...

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