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New Engine? Just curious, what does that cost?
A rebuilt to 2.0 with big valves is the most common and easiest route that most people have chosen. All your original stuff will fit it. I would have a nice new one right now, but I got talked into a rare 2.4 from Europe. PITA to get it all just right. Add to that the original, never available here, Opel Motronic FI system and you've got even more of a PITA. I'm just doing it for the challenge and to give me a nice long project to do.

Put a call out for someone to sell you a lightly used 2.0. You might be able to get one for less than a thousand. A big valve head and 2.0 block from Opel GT Source will cost you $2000 and you'll have to swap parts over from your old engine.

If you contact Goin Manta(Charles Goin), our current engine rebuilder, he might be able to give you a deal on a 2.0 or a rebuild to 2.0 of your present engine. Maybe $1500 or less. Or you can let him talk you into a 2.2/2.4 engine and then you can spend a bunch more money.

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Pulled the tank. The PO, or 2 owners ago, lined the tank about 20 years ago. The liner is failing. I plan to buy the POR-15 kit but wonder if it will be strong enough to pull the failing liner off.

I scrapped off some of the black coating. There are also some reddish veins. Seems like the coating separated or was not well mixed. The tank is solid. The mesh sock was still over the outlet. I broke that up and will flush it out when I clean it.
 

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A rebuilt to 2.0 with big valves is the most common and easiest route that most people have chosen. All your original stuff will fit it. I would have a nice new one right now, but I got talked into a rare 2.4 from Europe. PITA to get it all just right. Add to that the original, never available here, Opel Motronic FI system and you've got even more of a PITA. I'm just doing it for the challenge and to give me a nice long project to do.

Put a call out for someone to sell you a lightly used 2.0. You might be able to get one for less than a thousand. A big valve head and 2.0 block from Opel GT Source will cost you $2000 and you'll have to swap parts over from your old engine.

If you contact Goin Manta(Charles Goin), our current engine rebuilder, he might be able to give you a deal on a 2.0 or a rebuild to 2.0 of your present engine. Maybe $1500 or less. Or you can let him talk you into a 2.2/2.4 engine and then you can spend a bunch more money.

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Thanks for the info. I'm not anywhere near the engine yet but I'm curious of cost. For sure I'd prefer to have a fresh drivetrain in the car but I'm hoping the engine in it is good for now. I haven't done a compression test yet but it did run ok with no smoke in the exhaust so I have my fingers crossed hoping all is well. The engine has 70k on it. Are the 1900's known for longevity?
 

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Pulled the tank. The PO, or 2 owners ago, lined the tank about 20 years ago. The liner is failing. I plan to buy the POR-15 kit but wonder if it will be strong enough to pull the failing liner off.

I scrapped off some of the black coating. There are also some reddish veins. Seems like the coating separated or was not well mixed. The tank is solid. The mesh sock was still over the outlet. I broke that up and will flush it out when I clean it.
Damn, that's ugly! At least it's not your oil pan.
 

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Pulled the tank. The PO, or 2 owners ago, lined the tank about 20 years ago. The liner is failing. I plan to buy the POR-15 kit but wonder if it will be strong enough to pull the failing liner off.

I scrapped off some of the black coating. There are also some reddish veins. Seems like the coating separated or was not well mixed. The tank is solid. The mesh sock was still over the outlet. I broke that up and will flush it out when I clean it.
If you want a first class refurb of that tank, look for a shop in your area that uses the Gas Tank Renu process. They hot tank the tank, sandblast it inside and out, pressure test it for leaks and repair any they find. They then coat the outside with lizard skin coating and epoxy the inside, then bake it to accelerate the cure of the coatings.
During the cleaning process, they cut windows in between the baffles in order to be able to completely blast clean all of the tank interior and baffle surfaces. They then weld up the windows prior to pressure testing. I did this last year on my 944 tank and am well pleased with the work. Cost was about $400. New tank cost was $1500. A no-brainer for me. Good Luck!
 

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I've got a list too:

1. Pull the dashboard and see if I can get the little lights that illuminate the rocker switches working again. Also while in there see about the aux cable that is attached to my reto-rodded original radio and why it doesn't work.

2. I have way too much play in my steering and tightening the damper on top of the rack and pinion steering didn't fix the issue.

3. Keep working on fixing all the minor dings and scratches in my paint job using my airbrush and then sanding to blend it in and keep messing with my drivers side door that is warped.
 

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Are the 1900's known for longevity?
I remember hearing that the 1.9's held the record for longest lasting engine of it's type. 400,000 on the odo wasn't unusual.

I had a 1.9 converted to a high compression 2.0 with big valves that I drove for 225K miles. Still running like a kitten when I sold it 15 years ago and that car is still road worthy today.

How many car company's engines from the 60's can you think of that were worth a dang after 100K miles?

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I remember hearing that the 1.9's held the record for longest lasting engine of it's type. 400,000 on the odo wasn't unusual.

I had a 1.9 converted to a high compression 2.0 with big valves that I drove for 225K miles. Still running like a kitten when I sold it 15 years ago and that car is still road worthy today.

How many car company's engines from the 60's can you think of that were worth a dang after 100K miles?

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That's very encouraging to hear! I'll look forward to many miles of blissful driving.
 

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Most of the opel GTs that I've picked up over the course of my life have had between 70,000 and 90,000 miles on the odometer.
Some/most have had engine problems, namely a head related problem.

Having said that, if one were to take care of the coolant {adding an overflow tank) and change the oil regularly, I can't see a reason why the engines can't go well over 200,000.

My sons gt had about 50k after a rebuild when we took it apart and there was virtually no wear.
 

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  1. Rear deck done. Tank done. Sending unit fixed. C'mon spring.
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I got my Opel GT from an original owner with 122,000 on a stock 1.9 which now has over 123,000
with good compression and oil pressure 3.2 at idle. I bet this engine will go way over 200,000 :yup:
Certainly possible.... the block I just had bored for the current rebuild had around 275k miles on it when I pulled it from a '72 Manta. Car was done, engine was not!
 

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Alright...

Winter's over, Spring has begun. Time for a new thread.

Report card time, how'd everyone do?

I'll go first...

I had 47 items on my to-do list, but only 17 were winter goals.

I completed 90% of one goal, and 90% of a second goal, and that's it :/. Partial completion on 2/17.

- Weld body back together
As of tonight, I finished my last weld to join the body back together. It's a car again.

I'm not done welding the two cars together, (hence why I said 90%):
- I need to grind and then do the pinhole chasing dance on much of the welds still. Hardly anything is "finalized" and ready to walk away from.
- There's a couple spots I need to add patches (neither car had those pieces)
- I discovered some rusted-through sections of the trans tunnel that need a fairly large patch.

But, there is no more fitment to be done. The entire perimeter of the trans tunnel, firewall, and cowl is done.

This represents by far the largest task for me on the restoration, and while it's irritating to me that I know I have to revisit areas, there is nothing more to clamp or fit or figure out.

- Build speed control board to control inverter (parts on their way)
Boy this was way harder than I thought it would be, I spent 3 months at it, most of that waiting for troubleshooting help from those far more knowledgeable than me. If I had to do it all over again, I could do it in about a half hour. It's just some soldering and some programming. Knowing what to order, what to solder, and how to program is what took the time.

I'm not quite done because, my warranty on the Prius controller I bought was only good for 3 months, so when 3 months hit and I wasn't rolling, I took a break. No rush anymore. Technically it should work if I start hooking all the wires up.

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I'm not so sure I even want to set goals for the Spring :/
 

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I installed a new engine and got the first generation FI with spark control working. There's still some glitches to be worked out, but I seem to be almost done. The goal was to make the Carlisle show and the car show season in general. I'm sure Carlisle will be cancelled and car show season where I live is definitely cancelled, so I basically have another year to get my car's act together. Woo-hoo! :)
 

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Engine and transmission complete. Started on the rearend and brake package. Bodywork got put off. Again. Although, if I have to take six weeks off from work, I should be able to do some good.
 

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Matt I must say, your Opel project is amazing :) It looks like you have way more to do than time will allow. You accomplished a lot through the winter in my book. Compared to what I did, I feel like all I did was start it a few times a week and maybe if weather allowed, take it out for a drive (y)
I did work on an engine I pulled last summer from a parts car. That is a 1.9 that I'm rebuilding to a 2.0, then replace it with the original 1.9 that is currently in my GT.
There is always something we can all do with our Opel's, if nothing else, drive them :):):)
 

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Got my bare shell back from the painter Feb. 16. As of yesterday, got everything on my "to do" list done and the car all back together and ready to drive. Just waiting for a day of decent weather to take it out
 

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Got my bare shell back from the painter Feb. 16. As of yesterday, got everything on my "to do" list done and the car all back together and ready to drive. Just waiting for a day of decent weather to take it out
Do you have any pictures? Is it the car you’ve had or a different one?

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Do you have any pictures? Is it the car you’ve had or a different one?

Eric
Same car, lots of changes, I'll post some picks if it ever quits raining.
 
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