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Seems a lot of content was dropped. Also seems impossible to find a lot of stuff.

Seriously.. Worst of all links from Google.com now go to random pages and not the pages you were searching for.

The things I do try to find with the search engine here are useless..

Worse links that were to pages within the forum are also broken.. :

Opel GT Forum

JFC !! This company didnt think to see if old links worked anymore.. ! RUFKM !! Im done..

I should delete my account and just post at Classicopels.com - Seriously that article was updated and was important..
 

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No those are articles I wrote but not the price guide..

They created a thread called :

Article: Current Classic U.S. Opel Values for Opel GT, Manta A and U.S. Spec Kadett B

BUT they have apparently deleted the article to which it is mentioning. I even put a link to the article in the top of the page and it goes no where now.
I looked and couldn't find it. I even tried the wayback machine.
 

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I remember exactly which one you're talking about. There was an overwhelming amount of information about the values of many Opels and the options/features that increased value. And as you mentioned, it was updated.
I went back and found I had written down barely a few things from that about the Mantas a couple weeks ago, but now I'm bummed I never took screenshots of the whole thing.
It would be devastating to see all that work gone :(
 

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I have submitted a request to Cricket (the AutoGuide person working on the site upgrade) to find out why that and a few other links are broken. He asked that we tell him when we find a broken link. The Moderators have our own Forum to converse with AG, but I think members should post problems in the Bug Report Forum unless they tell us different.

That said, he hasn't fixed the one I told him about a day ago.

Anyway, here is the NADA link (I just Googled it):

 

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HTH not sure if it is what your asking for or not

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Discussion Starter • #5 6 months ago (Edited)
OPEL GT Valuation baseline ( UPDATED 07/29/19 )

  • PRIVATE - Original Survivor 1.1L Green w/ Buckskin Interior - #1.5 - $20,000 ( Oct 1st, 2017 )
  • Mecum - Lot F16.2 - 1971 1.9L STOCK Rallye Gold - #1 - $23,100 ( Jan 2019 )
  • Mecum - Lot G224 - 1973 STOCK Rallye Gold - #3 - $10,450 ( Jan 2018 )
  • Mecum - Lot F200 - 1972 White ( Custom V-6 ) - #4*(#3 body, Quality Custom Interior) - $7,500 ( Dec 2015 )
  • Bring-A-Trailer - 1972 1.9L Orange - #3 - $12,250 ( October 23rd, 2018 )
  • Bring-A-Trailer - 1973 1.9L White (Custom seat) - #3 - $11,570 ( September 6, 2018 )
  • Bring-A-Trailer - 1971 1.9L Gold (Recolor) - ( Custom Interior ) - #3.5 - $10,000 ( May 17, 2018 )
  • Bring-A-Trailer - 1971 1.9L Red (Recolor) - ( Custom Interior ) - #4 - $5,230 ( May 14, 2019 )
  • Bring-A-Trailer - 1971 1.9L Red - #4.5 - $4,600 ( June 27th, 2019 )
  • (ebay) 1970 - Rallye Gold GT (Customized - Auto) - Zionsville,In - #2 - $10,100 (Jul 01, 2019 )
  • (ebay) 1969 - Red GT STOCK - York, PA - #3.5 - $9,110 (May 22, 2019 )
  • (ebay) 1970 - White GT STOCK (Red Interior ) - York, PA - #4 - $5,401 (May 2019 )
  • (ebay) 1973 - Red GT (Auto) Modified - Pottstown, PA - #4.5 - $4,950 (Jul 20, 2019 )
  • (ebay) 1970 - Rallye Gold (Auto) - Taunton, Massachusetts - #4.5 - $4,649 (Jul 09, 2019 )
Values 1969-1973 GT
#0 - (Museum Level - Survivor w/ only showroom mileage) : $39,000+
#0
- (Museum Level - Restoration ) : $29,000+
#1
- (Concours Show Level) : $19,000 - $29,000 - HAGERTY $27,000
#2
- (NADA High) : $13,000 - $18,000 - HAGERTY $18,000
#3
- (NADA Avg) : $10,000 - $13,950 - HAGERTY $10,200
#3.5
- (NADA Low) : $8,000 - $9,950
#4
- (NADA Low) : $5,400 - $7,950 - HAGERTY $5,400
#4.5
- ( Good Body / Bad Mechanicals OR Bad Mechanicals Decent Body ) : $3,900 - $5,350
#5
- (Borderline Restorable / Mechanically Runs but Not Safe ) : $1,900 - $3,850
#6
- (Parts Car) : $500 - $1,850 ( Depending on the quality of parts & if running or not )
#7 - (Barely Scrap) : $500 - $100 ($150 is what the guys that come get cars for scrap will give you..)

Add:
  • Automatic ( This is debatable.. Those WANTING an Automatic may pay a premium.. those that don't will not )
  • $500-$1500 : 1.1L - 1.1L is rare version which due to rarity can see an increase due to recent interest.
  • 10% - Factory A/C
  • 5-10% - Early Flat Rear Panel / Split Bumper Early 69 (Documentable by VIN or body stamps)
  • 1968 1/2 GT - Can potentially add value up to a few extra thousand.. if complete and documentable. So far only a handful have been documented
OPEL Manta/1900 Valuation baseline :
  • Mecum - LOT F129 - 1975 White Manta - #1 - $23,100 (2019)
  • PRIVATE - Yellow - 1973 Yellow - #2 ( Survivor, Unrestored ) - $11,000
  • eBay - 1973 Blue Manta - #4.5 - $2,400 (7/15)
  • eBay - 1974 Yellow Manta - Survivor #3 - $5,250 (4/15)
  • eBay - 1972 Orange Rally Manta - #4 - $5,037 (4/15)
Values 1971-1975 Opel Manta

#0 - (Museum Level) : Unknown.. Best guess $25,000 +
#1
- (Concours Show Level) : $18,000 - $23,000
#2
- (NADA High) : $9,275 - $17,000
#3
- (NADA Avg) : $6,250 - $9,250
#4
- (NADA Low) : $3,900 - $6,250
#4.5
- (Restorable / Mechanically OK) : $2,400 - $3,900
#5
- (Borderline Restorable / Mechanically Runs but Not Safe ) : $1,250 - $2,400
#6
- (Running Parts Car) : $1,250 - $250 (Depending on the quality of parts)
#7 - (Barely Scrap) : $250 - $150 ($150 is what the guys that come get cars for scrap will give you..)

Add:
  • UNK - Automatic ( This is debatable.. Those WANTING an Automatic will pay the premium.. those that don't will not )
  • UNK - Vinyl Roof ( This is debatable.. Those WANTING it will pay more, those that don't will not )
  • 10% - Factory A/C
  • 10% - Sunroof

    Special Editions
    ( Note: These adders are on top of the others, but only valid on complete survivors or restored cars in #2 or above condition )
  • $500 - 1975 Model ( Complete With EFI and larger brake)
  • $500 - Luxus ( With original interior in good condition - 73 and 74 only.. center consoles unique by year) ( Gray interior 73 only and rare )
  • $1000 - Rallye ( Must include paint scheme and tach and gauge cluster - 71 and 72 have bucket back seats, and bolsters on front seats)
  • $1000 - Blue Max ( 1973 Only must include Vinyl roof and sunroof )
  • 1970 Manta - Can potentially add value up to a few extra thousand.. ( Less known about than 68 1/2 GT, none recently documented )

    NOTE: NO Additional Value Seen in Market due to these variations
  • 1971-72 Mantas tend to be rare due to lack of big bumper protection and are the preferred model by some not named "MANTA" only 1900 Coupe
  • 1973 Models have thin bumpers but rubber rubbing strips which are hard to replace ( Has 3 unique Luxus variants.. Silver Luxus interior VERY rare)
  • 1974 Models have Big Aluminum bumpers, the replacement rubber guards are hard to find ( Has 2 Unique Luxus variants Blue and Maroon )
  • 1975 Models come with Big Bumpers and many upgrades include bigger brakes and EFI

    NOTE: Asconas/1900 Sedans and Wagons seem to bring 20-50% less than Manta, closer to Kadett B pricing
  • Barrett-Jackson - LOT 9 - 1973 Ascona/1900 Wagon - #3 - $3,300 (2015)


    Values 1966-1972 Opel Kadett B
OPEL Kadett B Valuation baseline :
  • Mecum - LOT F83.1 - 1968 Red 1.1L Wagon ( Bod Joyner ) - #1 - $20,050 (2016)
  • Mecum - LOT F160 - 1968 Red 1.1L Wagon ( Bod Joyner ) - #1 - $22,500* (2017)
  • Mecum - LOT F56 - 1968 Red 1.1L Wagon ( Bod Joyner ) - #1 - $19,000* (2017)
  • Mecum - LOT S55.1 - 1968 Red 1.1L Wagon ( Bod Joyner ) - #1 - $17,050 (2018)
  • Barrett-Jackson - LOT 188 - 1968 Red 1.1L Wagon ( Bod Joyner ) - #1 - $17,050 (2019)
  • NOTE: The Bud Joyner Wagon has been at auction 5 times since 2016 ) = * High Bid did not sell
  • Mecum - LOT F83.1 - 1969 Bronze 1.1L Rallye (W/ AT) - #1 - $11,000 (2016)
  • Barrett-Jackson - LOT 620 - 1967 White 1.1L Rallye ( Gordy Klug ) - #1 - $21,450 (2014)
#0 - (Museum Level) : Unknown.. Best guess $22,000 +
#1
- (Concours Show Level) : $11,000 - $22,000
#2
- (NADA High) : $5,700 - $11,000
#3
- (NADA Avg) : $3,950 - $5,700
#4
- (NADA Low) : $2,400 - $3,950
#4.5
- (Restorable / Mechanically OK) : $1,500 - $2,400
#5
- (Borderline Restorable / Mechanically Runs but Not Safe ) : $1,000 - $1,500
#6
- (Running Parts Car) : $1,000 - $250 (Depending on the quality of parts)
#7 - (Barely Scrap) : $250 - $150 ($150 is what the guys that come get cars for scrap will give you..)

Add:
  • UNK - Automatic ( This is debatable.. Those WANTING an Automatic will pay the premium.. those that don't will not )
  • UNK - Vinyl Roof ( This is debatable.. Those WANTING it will pay more, those that don't will not )
  • 10% - Factory A/C
  • 10% - 1.5L (1968 only)
  • 15% - 1.9L
  • $500 - Sunroof

    Special Editions
    ( Note: These adders are on top of the others, but only valid on complete survivors or restored cars in #2 or above condition )
  • $500 - LS
  • $1000 - Rallye ( Must include paint scheme and tach and gauge cluster )

    Note : U.S. Spec Kadetts are part Kadett A and Olympia B, with their own unique parts.

  • On all 69-71 U.S. Spec Kadetts the front grille and trim is unique, as are front side marker lights (70-71) / reflectors (68-69).

  • Taillights for 1970 and 1971 U.S. Spec Kadetts are unique to the US Models only
  • 1970 and 1971 U.S. Spec Kadetts license plate lights are different and the same as 1974-75 Opel Manta as well.

    Note : Kadetts come in a variety of shapes and sizes.
  • 2 Door Rallye Fast back
  • 2 Door Coupe LS
  • 2 Door Station Wagon
  • 2 Door Sedan
  • 4 Door Sedan

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'71 Opel Kadett 4 Door 36D (2.0 L w/ EFI & Auto) - "Mary Ann"
'92 Senator B - "Professor"
'74 Opel Manta - "Barbara"
'72 Opel GT - "Red Baron"

In the past owned:
'04, '05, '06 Pontiac GTO
2 Bitters (#491/#439)
'73 Commodore GS
ATLAS ( 74 Manta w/ 2.8L LK5 )
& many many other Opels and a even few GTs


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I have submitted a request to Cricket (the AutoGuide person working on the site upgrade) to find out why that and a few other links are broken. He asked that we tell him when we find a broken link. The Moderators have our own Forum to converse with AG, but I think members should post problems in the Bug Report Forum unless they tell us different.

That said, he hasn't fixed the one I told him about a day ago.

Anyway, here is the NADA link (I just Googled it):

The NADA link is only part of the story..
 

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I remember exactly which one you're talking about. There was an overwhelming amount of information about the values of many Opels and the options/features that increased value. And as you mentioned, it was updated.
I went back and found I had written down barely a few things from that about the Mantas a couple weeks ago, but now I'm bummed I never took screenshots of the whole thing.
It would be devastating to see all that work gone :(
Remembered I had posted on ClassicOpels.com so thats where it will stay updated from now on:

Grading your Opel - Classicopels.com - Alt-Opel.US - Grading

Determining Opel Values for Opels in the US - Classicopels.com - Alt-Opel.US - Determing Value

Opel Values - GT, Manta and Kadett B - Classicopels.com - Alt-Opel.US - Values
 

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Links in the post..
 

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Thanks for the information Charles, I will keep those links :) Excellent write up
 

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I am still looking into broken links, but some may not be able to be recovered, especially if they were uploaded pdf files.

- Cricket
 
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