[Itsa '70 GT]

Thanks Baz!

 

[jeff denton]

In the thread called Rollcage Progress we sidetracked into wondering what a rollcage weighed, I went a bit further by showing the body skins all propped up on the lawn with my two darlings sitting by it. If you need any detail let me know specifically what area, it may show up in the pile of photos we took during the construction.

 

[azopelnut]

weights.
total new 2205
tranny 46
rear diff 125
doors 35 each
Front suspension 130
Motor is under 200 all in
lights and electrical 15, including the column
All the interior is around 50 pounds
Glass is around 35
gas tank is 10 or just under

Hello nobody
Ok
I beleive you know the weight of these components. The above list totals 681 pounds and according to previous posts the shell is about 400. That still leaves about 1124 pounds of what????

 

[baz]

paul if you reread you will see dave said the shell was 1500 lb not 400(that was thom) , i would have thought it was about 1300 but dave has more experience than most at stripping them so i will go with his figures

 

[Thom71GT]

1500 for the shell?!?!? That's crazy. That means that EVERYTHING in the whole car, seats, carpet, guages, electrical, chassis, ENGINE, glass, Wheels, tires, headlight assembly,bumpers, transmission, etc etc etc combined, only weighs 700 pounds?

I don't think that four of us could of "easily" moved that shell if it weighed 1500 pounds. I go to the gym 3 - 4 times a week. I do shoulder shrugs with a 225 barbell and the corner of the car that I was carrying was easier to lift than that barbell. And when I mean "easily", I mean that it wasnt the weight that was difficult, it was just akward carrying a car and moving it with 3 other people.

Lets make sure we are clear. The SHELL is the body of the car with NOTHING else attached. Just totally bare naked shell. Im still saying around 400 - 500 pounds.

 

[nobody]

I've had an entire shell including glass with interior in the back of a 1/2 ton Silverado truck and it didn't bottom out. Cut in 4 pieces two people can pick it up. The entire rear clip from the doors back with tank can be weighed if you want. As well as doors and glass or whatever. I need to gather up some weights anyway so I'll take a scale to the shop and have at it. I'll put a list together and put it on later.

 

[nobody]

A few weights.

tranny 43
bellhousing 8
clutch 9
flywheel 22
dorrs with glass 40
windshield 21
back glass 10
rear diff complete 125
engine block with pistons rods and crank 145
radiator 14
engine cross member 13
front suspension cross only 18
lower A arms 4
upper A arms with spindles 6
door glass 6
solex 4
intake manifold 2
exhaust manifold 11
colector back to first muffler 2
roof section with A, B and C pillers 37
front rotors 12
calipers 7
seats 26
head complete 63
starter 12
alternator 7
hood 22
rear section from B piller back including tank 210

with those numbers in mind and guessing a bit I'd say the shell completely stripped down would be around 700 pounds

 

[Itsa '70 GT]

Let's just say that with 3 more cuts my Opel GT drag car shell will wiggle like a Hula Girl! I've been slowed a little in my construction, but just keep watching and I'll let you know when the Luau is!

Bill B.

 

[jeff denton]

My testimony will be that a GT with engine and tranny removed, no glass, no interior whatsoever, doors off, gas tank out, headlights gone, can then be steered into the shop where four good sized guys can grab it, rotate it, and set it on the chassis jig, tires and all.
Been there, done it.
Bill, I know the GT hula wiggle. Once the front fenderwells are gone it begins, then cut the top off! I hope yours is on a jig...

 

[Itsa '70 GT]

....Bill, I know the GT hula wiggle. Once the front fenderwells are gone it begins, then cut the top off! I hope yours is on a jig...

Jig is next on the list;for chassis/frame and body fitting....That's why I haven't finished my 3 cuts yet...It wouldn't be pretty.....

Bill B.

 

[opelgt73]

A few weights.

tranny 43
bellhousing 8
clutch 9
flywheel 22
dorrs with glass 40
windshield 21
back glass 10
rear diff complete 125
engine block with pistons rods and crank 145
radiator 14
engine cross member 13
front suspension cross only 18
lower A arms 4
upper A arms with spindles 6
door glass 6
solex 4
intake manifold 2
exhaust manifold 11
colector back to first muffler 2
roof section with A, B and C pillers 37
front rotors 12
calipers 7
seats 26
head complete 63
starter 12
alternator 7
hood 22
rear section from B piller back including tank 210

with those numbers in mind and guessing a bit I'd say the shell completely stripped down would be around 700 pounds

You are forgetting the wheels and tires, those are about another 150lb. Headlight buckets are missing too. Plus all of the misc interior stuff. If you start adding up all the interior pieces, carpet, padding, dash, consol, gauge cluster ect... it adds up to a lot. They may not be much each but think about how heavy all that stuff is when you put it all in the same box for storage, they start getting pretty hefty.

My guess for the shell would be right around 600lb.

 

[nobody]

I based the weight guesstimate on the actual weight of a section I've cut and moved before and then added in the difference that I remember to move the front ( took 3 people for it ). I also added in the known weights for the remaining pieces.

I also didn't include fluid weights, a slew of fasteners, dash, shocks, a few front end pieces, hoses and belts.

 

[Dan0myte]

My guess for the shell would be right around 600lb.

No, that is way too high.

I currently have the car stripped down to the bone. Not a single piece installed on it at the moment. Me and a friend lifted the body up off the jackstands and moved it a couple feet without breaking a sweat. I would say it's 400 pounds. If it were 600 pounds, we would have been really stuggling to lift it.

 

[nobody]

400 would be a bit hard with the known weights I already posted. From the doors back with just a tank in it is 210. There is right at 300 to 325 not including any of the nose or firewall. I'll weigh the nose after I pick it up.

 

[jeff denton]

Yesterday I had to move Parts GT to a less conspicuous area of the yard. Would have been a snap with a few guys to help but I was on my own.
The photo shows how simple it was, understand that this car is as stripped as possible except for it does still have the front suspension crossmember with only left side A arms and spindle/hub on.
Once it was moved and back on the ground, by myself I could swivel and scoot it into perfect position for further storage.
The truck and its rigging indicated that there was no appreciable weight on the boom. It has worked a lot harder than that!!!

 

[Jonzo]

Hey,
I think I can account for the discrepency in GT weights.
You are all forgetting to subtract the weight of that part of the car which is no more. I'm talking about the parts that have rusted away!
We've all seen GT's which have unfortunately fallen victim to nature's weight reduction program.
Of course it's also possible for that loss in mass to be replaced by bondo!
-Jonzo

 

[Knorm65]

Opelgt1973 was the closest guess unless we want to subtract the weight of empty doors and hinges.

I get 590.4lbs using a crane scale on a fully stripped shell (with doors still intact, but no windows) I even removed the brake support crossmember and the front hood hinge.Headlight mechanisms and buckets are gone too. I added a 12lb weight to adjust for the massive amount of rust on the shell.

590.4 was the average of 3 separate weighing attempts that were all within 2lbs of each other. I would say it’s accurate to the nearest 5lb with the properly calibrated scale I used.

the hood adds and additional 23.4lbs
the glass excluding door glass adds 49.8lbs

I’ll be making a new thread with more things weighed but I wanted to update this old thread since I‘ve visited it many times.

I’ve checked a lot of the other measurements in the thread and they very questionable. There is no way a 1.9L rear end is 125lbs because my 1.1L is more than that lol. I’ll be clearing this all up.

 

[MattsAwesomeStuff]

Rear Axle Assembly Weight (no rims): 140 lbs
Torque Tube assembly Weight: 26 lbs
Control arms, Shocks, Track Rod Weight: 18 lbs
Total rear assembly weight minus springs: 184 lbs (plus a few bolts I missed).

Driveshaft weight: 10 lbs
Engine Mount weight: 16 lbs

 

[Knorm65]

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Rear Axle Assembly Weight (no rims): 140 lbs
Torque Tube assembly Weight: 26 lbs
Control arms, Shocks, Track Rod Weight: 18 lbs
Total rear assembly weight minus springs: 184 lbs (plus a few bolts I missed).

Driveshaft weight: 10 lbs
Engine Mount weight: 16 lbs

That’s more what I was expecting. My 1.1L axle with torque tube and all attachments installed including wheels was 188lbs. I’ll weigh it without the wheels later.

I’ve carried a fully loaded 1.9L rear end 50’ to my storage building on my own once. It was painful lol. I was only 145lbs before I picked it up.

 

[Knorm65]

A fully loaded front suspension with everything on it including rack and brakes (but no wheels) is 133.5lbs.

This was a 1.1L suspension, but all the parts are exactly the same as a 1.9L. The caliper pistons are slightly smaller, but weigh the same. The leaf spring is still 3-leaf.


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