[GTJIM (R.I.P.)]

We have Aussie ized Cortinas here with 4.1 litre Ford Falcon sixes in them - talk about torque! Quite a good supply of Pinto 2.3Ls aswell brought in from the US as just engines and transmissions for all sorts of uses.
I'm just pig-headed and want to make the, extremely rare here, CIH Opel motor show what it can do.

Quite a bit of competition from the Cortina owner who has now moved on to a VW based kit car into which he has adapted a genuine 2.7 litre Porche RS Carrera engine - yes one of the super rare magnesium alloy ones - which he bought from the local owner who wanted to use a bigger 3 litre Porche motor.
Neither of them had any idea how rare or expensive the RS Carrera engine is!
This thing is even faster and more lethal than the supercharged Cortina.

Makes a blown Lexus V8 look more and more tempting for the GT!!

 

[baz]

go for it
go on pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssseeeeeeeee

 

[GTJIM (R.I.P.)]

Nah!

I'll have to put that motor in old Aunty Rover (P6B) so she will be able to keep up with the GT as it is! Surprisingly enough the Lexus engine mounts are an almost drop in fit for the Rover - I have had it hanging in there!!!

 

[baz]

hey if a p5b is the only car the queen owns herself then it has to be good enough for a kiwi opeler
go roxus / lever

 

[GTJIM (R.I.P.)]

Cavalier!

hey if a p6b is the only car the queen owns herself then it has to be good enough for a kiwi opeler
go roxus / lever

1) What is this? Me thinks we have a closet Royalist here!

2) Here is a pic of the front page of the V6 book previously mentioned. NOT a peterson publication but brought out by:

S A Design Books
515 West Lambert, Unit E
BREA, CA 92621

ISBN 0 - 931472 - 13 - X

 

[namba209 (RIP)]

Early on in my V-6 transplant thinking, I purchased this book, and although it has some good stuff in it, it only covers the GM 60 degree 2.8L engine and not the later 3.1 or 3.4 engines. So it remains in the plastic ziploc baggie in the garage.

Ron

 

[GTJIM (R.I.P.)]

There is a small section in the back of it that covers 2.6 & 2.8 litre Ford 60 degree V6 though.

Have you seen www.gmpartsdirect.com GM 60 degree crate engines? They have a 3.4L replacement for rear wheel drive S-trucks 160 HP HT3.4 Part Number 12363230 GM List $2,049.11 Their Price $1,434.38 at my last look.

 

[namba209 (RIP)]

You're absolutely right Jim, I did read the whole book before I put it away, and it does cover all the V-6s of the Big 3 of that time. It just doesn't cover the engine I was interested in/have, although most of the info can be applied to what I have, except for the SFI, computer controlled ignition and all the sensors needed for the operation of the engine. I've looked at all the HiPo stuff available for the 60 degree GM V-6 on the net. But, right now it's called getting the thing all together and see if it will all stay together with stock original parts, kinda. Then if it stays together, and I get the monza done, I'll look at performance enhancements and other stuff to make it a complete NEW performance car. I've had folks, especially Margaret, tell me to get it done so they can see how it turns out. Her thing is, when I get it done, my back will go out on me and she'll HAVE to drive it.

Ron

 

[opelwasp]

youll have a hell of a time getting a strait 6 engine to fit because of the front suspension is so high

 

[Old Hippie]

kwilford,
I have heard from many mechanics that the Ford Mustang II V6 was a short life engine. Prone to a variety of breakdowns. I have seen quite a few in the local junk yards and was told this during inquieries. It seems like a smaller V6 than the 2.8 (though I never measured) and wondered if it would have been the better transplant. Hmm, maybe alittle mor research is in order.

 

[Dennis Weil]

I'am the guy with the V6 opel its not that easy. If this is a never motor you need the computer and wiring , and the tranny is ok I did not put a 5 speed in mine because I wanted an automatic tight fit but it works. There is a lot of other Info you need to know if you want to call me thats fine. Dennis 215-679-9723 home after 4:30 EST And yes with the 3.4 V6 and the automatic and the 411 gears in my car it is very fast.

 

[Dennis Weil]

V-6 swap

You can go to www.trappeauto.com to see pics when my opel was being put together if that helps. Look under projects Dennis Weils opel, I have an automatic in mine 700R4

 

[baz]

dennis can you look @ the link its not working (think you need a bit more on it )

 

[benncojr]

dennis can you look @ the link its not working (think you need a bit more on it )

baz,

Just add .com to the end of the link. That will get you to his location. It is a sharp looking car!!

 

[baz]

thanks rick
its very nice just wonder how hes going to get the tank over the 5 link subframe

 

[Yakpawolo]

A lot of weird stuff was done to the car. Very strange V6 with combined exhaust ports (uses only two exhaust tubes on each side) and gear driven cam, extremely long 4-speed manual (almost reaches the rear diff), shifter mounted on a piece of orange painted steel, 245/50/13 tires in the rear, full roll bar (badly mounted), gauges galore, switches I have no idea what they do, etc.

While I was taking it apart, I just kept saying "What was this guy thinking?"

That looks a lot like a Cologne six. I've done a bit of work on those engines, and would never for the life of me consider stuffing one in a sports car. They are large, heavy and completely untuneable. Aside from its principal home, the Granada, it also powered the Capri, Scorpio, Sierra XR range, etc, but IMHO it's best suited for agricultural machinery. That aside, it's a good, solid engine, and some of them have passed the million mile mark without major mechanical issues. Still, you've gotta wonder why someone would want it in a race car...

On a side note, most of the Colognes were mated to T-5's, aside from the earliest ones which got some funky 4-spd box.

~Yak

 

[baz]

hi yak colognes untunable ????
i had 220 bhp on a rolling road from the 2.8 in my mustang II just by junking the emmision gear, a carb change and some work to the exhaust when i did a rebuild i changed the cam and ported the heads and manifolds and could not get a reading on the r/road as it only went to 260 bhp
any with the european heads were harder to tune for sure but they will go to 190 with a little work and mid 200's if you ahve the exhausts reworked and the splitters put in to make them 3 port heads
race wise they are very high torque when tuned so are very good to race
remember ford use to race a 2.6 RS capri in german touring carsand they were the dogs bo****ks for years ,even made bmw bring out the batmobil(3.0 cls) to try and beat it
only boxes ive seen on them are fords heavy casting 4 speed,the "N" type 5 speed,and mt75's ony ever heard of the t5 in cossys(4 cyilinder turbo) may be diff in norway but the rest of europe use those

 

[neuropel]

Is this the same basic 2.8 engine that Ford continued on into the early (i.e. '83-'85) Ranger trucks here in the US? The 2.8 Capris here in the states could be made quite hot. I've always thought it'd be an interesting swap into an Opel since I noticed lots of parts swapped over to Opel engines and drivetrains (weird things like flywheel bolts, pilot bushings, etc.). Plus, you can get a getrag 265 (I think) bellhousing for a 5 speed swap. There are still some goodies being made for them, like Offie intakes and some torquey cams. The ones here all had solid lifters, and if well cared for, were good for MANY thousands of miles. Biggest problem was a reputation for the heads to crack.

Todd K.

 

[baz]

....................

 

[baz]

the mercury capri was the german capri so if its has a common engine then yes
we had different engines in britain for most of the run
we started with a "kent " engine (1.3 and 1.6 ) a 2.0 with the "pinto"and a 3.0 "essex" V6 engine
germany did them with there 1.5 / 1.7 /2.3 and 2.6 engines

last models were common and had 2.0 pinto / 2.3 V6 and 2.8 V6

ps im a ford man at heart as you may tell

only ever liked 4 GM cars
manta a
gt monza and
monte carlo